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RE: [WIP] Weapon Models

Sun, 05 Feb 2012 03:14:56 +0100

I always though of respawning as a person off site with a machine that could patch a player back together......

If we are ever going to have a decent SP campaign we will probably need to explain it.

ps --- most other games can avoid the whole respawn thing because you only have a small number of lives and die rarely. However, in xonotic one can die as many times as they like and often more than once in a minute. That kind of respawning NEEDS to be explained.

RE: Help with setting for campaign (or whatever that is)

Sun, 05 Feb 2012 02:54:09 +0100

bump ---

this stuff is important ... if it is not possible I think it should be implemented

-- it would greatly expand capabilities of SP

RE: [Bug]No icons for certain gametypes

Sat, 04 Feb 2012 21:40:11 +0100

Same here.

RE: Save the HLAC !

Sat, 04 Feb 2012 21:22:14 +0100

I didnt mean to say that those weapons should be removed. Its just that lots of weapons are WIP, so why remove it.

RE: The Big Benchmark

Sat, 04 Feb 2012 20:44:14 +0100

here is another one

Name: desktop
OS: win 7 home 32 bit
Intel core 2 quad Q6600 @ 2ghz
4 cores
4gb Ram 800mhz
geforce 260 gtx

http://ompldr.org/vY21qeg/the-big-benchmark.zip

RE: The Race Challange - January

Sat, 04 Feb 2012 20:34:22 +0100

(Yesterday 10:02 AM)Justin Wrote: Great method, Halogene and beautiful rocket/laser style! You are the best, man.

Heh uhm thx but uhm I'm second

And you're running better than me, provided you try

Sure you can show me some runs and tricks, just poke me on IRC if you find me there. I'm looking forward to it!

RE: Cut down on the number of weapons

Sat, 04 Feb 2012 19:44:00 +0100

(Yesterday 07:13 AM)tZork Wrote: Well, the bending idea was to give the gun a more defined use so it would have less of the redundancy issue™. But as you say, its discussions abt how good or bad that is is pointless until there's something to actually test. Personally i feel the lg/arc is unnecessary, as we already have a machine-gun that can do this job - but there's a high demand for such weapon so its quite likely it will be introduced.

It's important to have weapons that help more skilled players utilize their skill. high spread/arc will make aim less important in game-play and this may work to the against players in high-skill matches and tournaments. IMO there needs to be a balance between primary and secondary fire to allow guns to be used with excellent responsiveness to skill as well as allowing new players to earn a few frags against average players.

IMO the arc secondary should allow for charging (possibly consuming ammo) to give the gun a short-term surplus of energy. This would allow the gun to have decreased "Flex" and be more accurate for just long enough for a skilled player to do enough damage to significantly weaken an opponent. this would be similar to the Nex recharge but change accuracy instead of damage.

Just an idea.

[Bug]No icons for certain gametypes

Sat, 04 Feb 2012 18:35:55 +0100

A few gametypes have no corresponding icons. I attach a screenshot with proof. Happens on autobuild.

RE: The Race Challange - January

Sat, 04 Feb 2012 16:02:47 +0100

Great method, Halogene and beautiful rocket/laser style! You are the best, man. If you have some speare time I'd love to spend it showing you tricks and fastest runs.
I tried yout way too.

RE: Save the HLAC !

Sat, 04 Feb 2012 15:04:53 +0100

my view

Fireball - its a little over powered, but its the only fire based thing in the game right now
Rifle - very very different from xon/nex if you know how to use it (again read discussion)
TAG - is actually very good at taking down vehicles (especially the flying ones) This gun has to stay (and get an awesome model)
Mines - rafallus stated it perfectly

If the devs are determine to get rid of it... it should at least be moved to some unlisted weapon list so bots can use it in single player (once sp gets more mature)

However,
i think reworking it into a gun that is independent of time space would be pretty cool (and make the bullets something other than red)

Quote:For me HLAC is more fun to use than crylink.

The concern is that HLAC is too similar to hagar, not crylink

RE: Cut down on the number of weapons

Sat, 04 Feb 2012 14:57:03 +0100

we do have 2 open weapon slots (last I checked) ... whats wrong with using them up? also the tuba should not be on the main weapon list ... that would open a third slot.

RE: Cut down on the number of weapons

Sat, 04 Feb 2012 13:13:53 +0100

Well, the bending idea was to give the gun a more defined use so it would have less of the redundancy issue™. But as you say, its discussions abt how good or bad that is is pointless until there's something to actually test. Personally i feel the lg/arc is unnecessary, as we already have a machine-gun that can do this job - but there's a high demand for such weapon so its quite likely it will be introduced.

RE: Save the HLAC !

Sat, 04 Feb 2012 12:03:01 +0100

Quote:Crylink is not a substitute, its secondary is useless.

Devs said they're not done with it yet. Thank God, because indeed it is pretty useless.

Quote:Like OP mentioned, or adding time before it starts firing but it would fire more often. Like overkill machine gun.

Confirmed. As a chaingun (reworked mg).

Quote:And if you really want to get rid of weapons then, remove fireball, rifle ,TAG and Minelayer,

Fireball - hell no, it is a superweapon, it is confirmed to be redone in power-up form like Strength or Defense.
Rifle - there are plans for consolidation of nex and rifle, not 100% clear, how exactly it will work - ongoing discussion in a topic below yours (like most of provided info here).
TAG - I would agree with that, or at least heavily rework it.
Mines - hell no, this is a trap laying device rather than actual weapon. Fun to trap some good items or near abouts of flags, assault objects, etc.

RE: Save the HLAC !

Sat, 04 Feb 2012 11:21:29 +0100

I <3 HLAC

Don't kill it I'm can't sleep without having a HLAC

RE: [DM]x-qg The quad generator

Sat, 04 Feb 2012 09:55:03 +0100

You forgot the include the bsp file in your pk3 package

RE: Save the HLAC !

Sat, 04 Feb 2012 09:45:01 +0100

(02-03-2012 05:35 PM)Lee_Stricklin Wrote: My thoughts about the HLAC:

KILL IT WITH FIRE!

Better destroy it with lazers!

RE: Dubstepping

Sat, 04 Feb 2012 09:25:35 +0100

(02-03-2012 07:51 PM)The mysterious Mr. 4m Wrote: Get Flash 11.

Actually, I looked in the Plugins window, and saw conflicting versions: 10 and 11. With 10 disabled, everything runs smoothly.

RE: Next release?

Sat, 04 Feb 2012 08:42:18 +0100

(02-03-2012 01:12 PM)C.Brutail Wrote: I expect it in 2-3 weeks, but definately in February!

Good to know, thanks!

RE: Save the HLAC !

Sat, 04 Feb 2012 06:30:59 +0100

I agree with OP, HLAC is awesome, I don't get why do they want to remove it, it adds some variability. Like rifle, some people won't touch it, its nothing but a copy of xon. For me HLAC is more fun to use than crylink. Its the only weapon spewing fast moving particles and also being a strong shotgun. Crylink is not a substitute, its secondary is useless.
If you really hate that why don't you modify it to make more sense. Like OP mentioned, or adding time before it starts firing but it would fire more often. Like overkill machine gun.
And if you really want to get rid of weapons then, remove fireball, rifle ,TAG and Minelayer, all of them are useless/redundant/balance breaking shit.

RE: Dubstepping

Sat, 04 Feb 2012 06:18:32 +0100

mink , all the sounds are fine to me , but i think its the arrangement, try making up a little story in ya head to help.

for example :

the sun sets , all settles , then an increasing rumble , from the shadows appear the glowing eyes of the mink monster (heheh) , then OUT HE JUMPS! (fanfare) , awesome super %100 Minkovsky raises his surgeon hands and then he drops them! (cue dROP , PHAT BEATS)
then he buys a sandwich and has a walk (figure it out )

er..

so you know , try to tell a story in ya tunes (or dont , you could be like me and set about making a tune with no thought/process/direction )

good luck mate , keep up the awesome work.

t

:^

btw , firefox11 ? try firechicken9000

or use another browser!