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Ragdoll Physics - MaXus999 - 02-16-2011
Hey everyone,
I Think that Xonotic needs a ragdoll physics when you die.
What do you think?
EDIT:
1) That suggestion is unnecessary for the game.
2) Ragdoll physics is impossible in Darkplaces engine.
3) The idea itself sucks and so: IGNORE THIS POST.
RE: Ragdoll Animation - Lee_Stricklin - 02-16-2011
Rag doll animation not only would seriously screw with the game's performance, but wouldn't add a whole lot visually, especially when you take into consideration how often players get gibbed.
RE: Ragdoll Animation - jaykay - 02-18-2011
if i understood that correctly there are technical limitations why ragdoll physics cant be implemented right now, i think it was something like the server controls something which the clients need to control for ragdoll physics....
RE: Ragdoll Animation - tZork - 02-19-2011
The technical limitations are quite large indeed. So large, in fact, that it cant be done. The only way to make it happen is moving player animation control to csqc, something that may well be necessary for other things too. There is however a lack of anyone that can/want to code csqc players. But even with this done, at the moment, ragdolls are one of the last thing that Xonotic *needs* (there are far more important things to do).
RE: Ragdoll Animation - unfa - 02-19-2011
I'd agree that it's a cool feature to have, but we have other things more needed than this right now
RE: Ragdoll Animation - rainerzufalldererste - 02-19-2011
...we had this discussion several times -.-
RE: Ragdoll Animation - noobermin - 03-22-2011
(02-19-2011, 06:09 AM)tZork Wrote: The technical limitations are quite large indeed. So large, in fact, that it cant be done. The only way to make it happen is moving player animation control to csqc, something that may well be necessary for other things too. There is however a lack of anyone that can/want to code csqc players. But even with this done, at the moment, ragdolls are one of the last thing that Xonotic *needs* (there are far more important things to do).
If we do move animation to csqc, which indeed would open the door to having a number of things improving I'd bet. Would it have very large implications for the current way things are structured? Would it be a welcome change among most of the devs? Honestly, it sounds like the superior organization of stuff.
RE: Ragdoll Animation - noobermin - 03-25-2011
I'm curious for more input, this sounds like something I'd be interested in looking into.
RE: Ragdoll Animation - mood - 03-26-2011
My problem is that currently ragdoll physics are just that-RAGDOLL physics! I understand the game is not realistic in most senses, but when a body loses its life, it doesn't move like a ragdoll. Watch a movie where someone dies (preferably a realistic one) and then play hl2. See the difference? If you can fix that, THEN move ragdoll physics to the low-priority to-do list, because, as said before, it's not all that important.
RE: Ragdoll Animation - noobermin - 03-26-2011
(03-26-2011, 07:02 PM)pohatu9 Wrote: My problem is that currently ragdoll physics are just that-RAGDOLL physics! I understand the game is not realistic in most senses, but when a body loses its life, it doesn't move like a ragdoll. Watch a movie where someone dies (preferably a realistic one) and then play hl2. See the difference? If you can fix that, THEN move ragdoll physics to the low-priority to-do list, because, as said before, it's not all that important.
Ragdoll physics in an of itself isn't too important, but moving animation to CSQC is something that could benefit the game in many respects.
RE: Ragdoll Physics - SkyMaker996 - 01-23-2012
Nice idea, but I agree with tZork, DarkPlaces is limited when it comes to physics, but maybe adding a physics engine (Bullet) will enable ragdoll physics
(Pretty much what Valve did, they improved Quake engine, from goldSrc to Source, upgraded the graphics and added a physicsengine, Havok)
So basically Darkplaces is like Source, they are both "pumped" versions of Quake, Source has Havok and hopefully DarkPlaces will have Bullet
(which is better physics engine than Havok and doesn't take much RAM or processing power to run)
RE: Ragdoll Physics - theShadow - 01-23-2012
darkplaces already has a physics engine, ODE, however it was never fully implemented.
i do agree that bullet would be a much better choice, as I have had some experience using bullet.
and honestly, if ragdolls were implemented, I would prefer the crazy not-realistic-at-all ragdolls, because they are more entertaining.
RE: Ragdoll Physics - Lee_Stricklin - 01-23-2012
I personally prefer well animated deaths as opposed to ragdolls in most cases. The exception to this would be if someone were to hit a ledge or something or got hit while they were airborne.
RE: Ragdoll Physics - Mr. Bougo - 01-24-2012
Oh, it's this discussion again! For reference:
Skeletal Animation
In game physics
ragdoll death animation request
RE: Ragdoll Physics - PCLizard - 01-24-2012
Hey, this is a GREAT idea!!!!!!!! You know what!?!? I got some other great ideas too!!!! Let's add a killcam to every death so that way people know how they died! Oh oh oh yeah, let's also add a level system so that way you can earn and spawn with other weapons instead of having to pick them up (btw that's just too hard for everyone, gotta make it more fair). And maybe...just maybe, we could even add an awards system so you can show off your 1337 skills to all of your noob friends and smile like a pro!
Oh, wait a second.....
/end rage
RE: Ragdoll Physics - PinkRobot - 01-24-2012
Way to get worked up over a year old thread :p
RE: Ragdoll Physics - SkyMaker996 - 01-24-2012
@theShadow
Yes, I prefer crazy ragdoll deaths
@Lee_Stricklin
Your opinion is your opinion
@Mr. Bougo
My apologize, I'm new here and I didn't feel searching for other related posts
@PCLizard
U MAD BRO?
@PinkRobot
yep, I agree with you
RE: Ragdoll Physics - Mr. Bougo - 01-24-2012
No need to apologize, I just posted these links for reference because redundant discussions are redundant.