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1v1 ruined by spectators voting - W4RP1G - 03-28-2012
Why join a 1v1 server with people dueling if you want to play DM? This happens all the time to me. I join an empty 1v1, or with 1 person waiting. Spectators join, get impatient, and vote for DM. And it passes because there are 3 or more spectators voting yes. Why don't those morons join a FFA server instead of ruining a 1v1 in progress?
Are there NA servers that don't allow this, and how can I find them?
RE: 1v1 ruined by spectators voting - nifrek - 03-28-2012
What server were you playing on? That's sounds aweful indeed, but can't be helped if server admin allows votable gametypes. Sorry I don't know what else to say
Play on Antibody's Quarantine 1v1 (XPM) and Chicago 1on1 Server (XPM), those are duel-only servers.
RE: 1v1 ruined by spectators voting - W4RP1G - 03-29-2012
(03-28-2012, 10:21 PM)nifrek Wrote: What server were you playing on? That's sounds aweful indeed, but can't be helped if server admin allows votable gametypes. Sorry I don't know what else to say
Play on Antibody's Quarantine 1v1 (XPM) and Chicago 1on1 Server (XPM), those are duel-only servers.
Ok I will check those out, thanks for the advice! And I believe I was playing on the Dallas Volatile server.
I was thinking(if it doesn't exist already) that there should be a way to set the server up so spectators can't call votes. I like the ability to change the gametype within the server, just not spectators calling the vote in a 1v1. If this doesn't exist already, I will gladly make a thread recommending it's implementation(if possible).
RE: 1v1 ruined by spectators voting - Mr. Bougo - 03-29-2012
But then, votable game mode servers will all get stuck in 1v1.
RE: 1v1 ruined by spectators voting - Spaceman - 03-29-2012
(03-29-2012, 01:37 AM)W4RP1G Wrote: ...I was playing on the Dallas Volatile server.
The servers name does suggest it may change its characteristics
However, it might be possible to change the vcall alias and change the game type at the end of a 1 vs 1 round. Spectators could still call a vote for endmatch!
RE: 1v1 ruined by spectators voting - Mirio - 03-29-2012
@ W4RP1G: Such a command exists.
(03-29-2012, 02:51 AM)Spaceman Wrote: However, it might be possible to change the vcall alias and change the game type at the end of a 1 vs 1 round. Spectators could still call a vote for endmatch!
It would disable the hole voting stuff for spectators.
(03-29-2012, 02:01 AM)Mr. Bougo Wrote: But then, votable game mode servers will all get stuck in 1v1.
But a Duel server is never full 24 hours per day, so you can change it when the 2 players left (or 1 of them).
Or you ask them nicely.
Or you join quickly when the next maps starts.
(Or you call kick votes if you're mean
)Or [...].
But beside of that it's not the fault of the ('voteable') server, such a situation can happen technically with all gamemodes there. It's rather the fault of the players and their patience, although I believe this is the most popular (and kind of only?) DM server for the NA region.
I understand both parties here - probably just play Duel on real Duel servers like mentionend above, so you should not get interupted and you can play with proper server settings.
RE: 1v1 ruined by spectators voting - W4RP1G - 03-29-2012
Yeah I'll probably try to stick with the duel servers from now on. I wasn't aware that there were servers that were duel only when I made this thread, I thought they all allowed for changing the game mode.
RE: 1v1 ruined by spectators voting - MonoXideAtWork - 03-29-2012
I was in the server when W4Rpig's duel was voted to a close. The voting for match end was the rude thing that I observed.
As per his whole deal with people voting for DM, that was me, the game was set for duel, and after his match two players were up and the map was not a duel map, so instead of watching people play with the piano in the map, I made a vote for DM.
Sorry if it pissed you off, but there was no way that i could explain this to you with while you were calling me fgt nub, so I just let you be mad. Now you're taking it to the forums, so yay. = \
RE: 1v1 ruined by spectators voting - CuBe0wL - 03-29-2012
"you were calling me fgt nub"
Demo pls.
RE: 1v1 ruined by spectators voting - Mr. Bougo - 03-29-2012
Or server/irc logs.
RE: 1v1 ruined by spectators voting - MonoXideAtWork - 03-29-2012
(03-29-2012, 06:12 AM)C.Brutail Wrote: "you were calling me fgt nub"
Demo pls.
Sorry, didn't record anything, as it wasn't important to me. He was obviously feeling like he was being disrespected because someone voted his duel to a close.
I agree with him in one way, I'd never seen that command in a game before, it blew my mind.
RE: 1v1 ruined by spectators voting - CuBe0wL - 03-29-2012
In that case, let me tell both of you, regardless what happened and who's the one to blame:
This behaviour is not what our community known of, and it is not tolerated by any means, let those be old or new members doing it. Voting down a game that is currently played just because you're too inpatient is rude. Just like telling the other fgt nub, because as far as I can tell, you're both noobies to this game and scene.
To get it short: you're both new in the sandbox, so as long as you play according the rules set up by those who were playing here before, you're very much welcomed (friendliness, respect, the general stuff people consider polite). Else you can find yourself out from the playground very fast.
RE: 1v1 ruined by spectators voting - Sless - 03-29-2012
[Completly OFF TOPIC]:
(03-29-2012, 07:44 AM)C.Brutail Wrote: To get it short: you're both new in the sandbox, so as long as you play according the rules set up by those who were playing here before, you're very much welcomed (friendliness, respect, the general stuff people consider polite). Else you can find yourself out from the playground very fast.
I like this. And I'd love to see THIS (or similar, straight forward) text in a HOWTO-Guide or readme which people should read before playing.
Right now, I'm really tempted to implement this in MOTD of my server.
Again, nice comment!
[/OFF TOPIC]
RE: 1v1 ruined by spectators voting - W4RP1G - 03-29-2012
(03-29-2012, 05:09 AM)MonoXideAtWork Wrote: I was in the server when W4Rpig's duel was voted to a close. The voting for match end was the rude thing that I observed.
As per his whole deal with people voting for DM, that was me, the game was set for duel, and after his match two players were up and the map was not a duel map, so instead of watching people play with the piano in the map, I made a vote for DM.
Sorry if it pissed you off, but there was no way that i could explain this to you with while you were calling me fgt nub, so I just let you be mad. Now you're taking it to the forums, so yay. = \
Man, if you would have explained it better to me, I wouldn't have gotten mad at you. And I didn't call you a fgt nub, i said "fucking stupid vote", you told me to chill, I called you a douche bag. Honestly, I had every right to be mad, and I don't believe you should not have told me to chill when I was wronged, but I do apologize for calling you a name, I was pretty damn mad. Also, I thought you called that vote out of spite because we were dueling earlier and I left to play QL with my friend. Sorry about the hostility
Anyway, I'm sure anyone could agree that voting to end the match while you're spectating a duel is a pretty messed up thing to do. I got my answer on how to avoid it though, thanks for the help guys, cya online!
RE: 1v1 ruined by spectators voting - MonoXideAtWork - 03-29-2012
No worries dude. FYI, i voted no on that and was shocked at the vote in general.
I just didn't want 4 people to be forced to watch someone plink out the super mario bros theme. But any way, I'm over it. Look forward to seeing you out there, and like I said, I'd be happy to give you some pointers dueling.
RE: 1v1 ruined by spectators voting - Mr. Bougo - 03-30-2012
Awwwwwwwwwwwww!
RE: 1v1 ruined by spectators voting - Halogene - 03-30-2012
Another example why I like this forum.
RE: 1v1 ruined by spectators voting - Mario - 03-30-2012
For those interested, here's the IRC chat log:
Quote:<k-> * Mitsukaru calls a vote for "endmatch Jefe3 wins xD"
<k-> * the vote ended with yes: 5:2, 0 didn't care, 1 didn't vote
<k-> dm_bloodrun_a2 ended: Jefe3 12, 0P1G_V3n0m0 2
<k-> * hotrock#9<=> calls a vote for "ctf"
<k-> <MonoXideatWork> :-) / nice one
<k-> <Mitsukaru> lolol
<k-> <MonoXideatWork> wow
<k-> <Jefe3> lol
<k-> <Jefe3> first time playing
<k-> <Jefe3> o.o
<k-> <0P1G_V3n0m0> fucking stupid vote
<k-> <MonoXideatWork> chill pig
<k-> <MonoXideatWork> i want in!
<k-> <MonoXideatWork> =)
<k-> <0P1G_V3n0m0> good for you douche bag
<k-> * the vote ended with no: 1:1 (2 needed), 0 didn't care, 6 didn't vote
<k-> <Jefe3> lol
<k-> * Mitsukaru calls a vote for "gotomap peace5"
<k-> <MonoXideatWork> i voted no!
<k-> <MonoXideatWork> i wanted to see it played
<k-> * the vote ended with yes: 5:1, 0 didn't care, 2 didn't vote
<k-> * Mitsukaru calls a vote for "gotomap peace6"
<k-> <MonoXideatWork> don't hate me cause I'm beatiful. You're just mad.
<k-> <0P1G_V3n0m0> your a jackass
<k-> * the vote ended with yes: 3:1 (3 needed), 0 didn't care, 3 didn't vote
<k-> dm_peace5 ended: Mitsukaru 0, ZERO 0
<k-> <Mitsukaru> no u
RE: 1v1 ruined by spectators voting - PinkRobot - 03-30-2012
Ah peace5, peace6... lol
'Take a chill pill' and try peace6dot5 ;]
RE: 1v1 ruined by spectators voting - Halogene - 03-30-2012
Reading the log I think it was Mitsukaru who was responsible for the mess... I will watch his behavior, he plays on DCC's some times.
RE: 1v1 ruined by spectators voting - divVerent - 03-30-2012
Another thing: there is a cvar to disallow spectators voting.
sv_vote_nospectators
in mode 1, this still allows anyone to vote during warmup to prevent servers from being "taken over forever" by 1on1 players. I just did a code change so this ALSO allows spectator voting after the match.
in mode 2, this never allows spectators to vote. But a server then would indeed likely be stuck in 1on1.
I recommend server admins who use votable game types and 1on1 among them to change their 1on1 config so that spectators can't vote in it, while in the other modes they should be allowed. This can be done by extending their existing aliases.
RE: 1v1 ruined by spectators voting - theShadow - 03-30-2012
btw, just a heads up. IIRC the dallas server is NOT a 1vs1 server usually. I'm guessing there were only 2 people on the server, and they decided to start a duel, but then others came and wanted to play, so it changed back.
also, maybe there should be a a special vcall command, that only executes at the end of a match? This will allow the server to change, but without being rude.
RE: 1v1 ruined by spectators voting - W4RP1G - 03-31-2012
Water under the bridge. I know now to use a 1v1 server for 1v1s. I also found that cvar to disable spectator voting when I was messing with server configs. Seems like a great thing to have in a server for obvious reasons. I personally think spectator voting should be disabled by default, but I'm sure there are some situational advantages to leaving it enabled.