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Forum users: do we need the 5 star thread rating system? - Mr. Bougo - 05-15-2012
Hi!
I keep accidentally giving bad thread ratings (I blame pentadactyl for this). There is no way to undo or edit the rating you give to a thread, so the only possibility for me to prevent the accidental ratings would be to prevent me to click them. I can do it the complicated way, with scripts in my browser that modify the DOM, or I can easily disable the entire system in the forum settings. Since I want to do it the easy way, I thought I'd ask you:
Do we need the five-star thread rating system? Is it useful at all?
Vote and discuss.
RE: Forum users: do we need the 5 star thread rating system? - W4RP1G - 05-15-2012
I think the thread rating system is pointless and I never use it. I believe the system does not help a forum with so little activity.
RE: Forum users: do we need the 5 star thread rating system? - edh - 05-15-2012
We can do without it I think.
PS. Anyone notice how this thread itself has a 5 star rating? Oh the irony.
RE: Forum users: do we need the 5 star thread rating system? - rocknroll237 - 05-15-2012
It's now a 3 star. Trololololol.
RE: Forum users: do we need the 5 star thread rating system? - Mirio - 05-15-2012
(05-15-2012, 01:00 PM)rocknroll237 Wrote: It's now a 3 star. Trololololol.
No, 2!
I think it's not useful, you usually look at the topic name and judge if it's interesting for you or not. Also not everyone votes there so it's not a good indicator.
Idea: Since you can rate posts now you could show - visually - how many posts got rated in a topic, i.e. by an icon close to the topic name.
Like.. 20% of the posts got rated = Bronze Icon, 50% Silver Icon, 75% Gold
or something.. no idea.
I don't even know if it's possible.
RE: Forum users: do we need the 5 star thread rating system? - Halogene - 05-15-2012
That's a thing that I wondered about, how do you rate posts? Sorry for off topic question...
On topic again I also don't know what to use the star rating for, I think it's useless and I also have been giving ratings to threads that I didn't intend.
RE: Forum users: do we need the 5 star thread rating system? - Spaceman - 05-15-2012
I want to change the star rating that I give to a thread. I usually give a 1 or 5 star rating, sometimes nil. But after a period of time I change my mind. Recently Mirkea started an awesome thread but I thought his/her timing was poor and gave the thread a single star, but now is the time for awesome threads and I want to change my vote.
A simple upboat or downboat would be better - look at reddit
PS can we have a delete button?
"Yes, disable the CURRENT rating system"
RE: Forum users: do we need the 5 star thread rating system? - Mr. Bougo - 05-15-2012
(05-15-2012, 01:06 PM)Mirio Wrote:(05-15-2012, 01:00 PM)rocknroll237 Wrote: It's now a 3 star. Trololololol.
No, 2!
I think it's not useful, you usually look at the topic name and judge if it's interesting for you or not. Also not everyone votes there so it's not a good indicator.
Idea: Since you can rate posts now you could show - visually - how many posts got rated in a topic, i.e. by an icon close to the topic name.
Like.. 20% of the posts got rated = Bronze Icon, 50% Silver Icon, 75% Gold
or something.. no idea.
I don't even know if it's possible.
I clicked 1 (on purpose!) but it's still 2 in average. Aw.
Thread rating based on post rating would either never work for big threads or result in a huge reputationfest. I don't think I like this idea :X
(05-15-2012, 02:07 PM)Spaceman Wrote: I want to change the star rating that I give to a thread. I usually give a 1 or 5 star rating, sometimes nil. But after a period of time I change my mind. Recently Mirkea started an awesome thread but I thought his/her timing was poor and gave the thread a single star, but now is the time for awesome threads and I want to change my vote.
A simple upboat or downboat would be better - look at reddit
PS can we have a delete button?
"Yes, disable the CURRENT rating system"
Upvote/thumbs up/whatever would be nicer indeed. MyBB's default rating system won't let you change your rating, if that were possible I would have no problem with it at all...
RE: Forum users: do we need the 5 star thread rating system? - Spaceman - 05-15-2012
No sane person likes/wants down votes (maybe our local gimp MikeeeeeeeUSA). A simple like/upvote/thumbs up button would be enough with a counter.
A table with thread_id, user_id. A simple query that counts the number of user_id's. Some Ajaxy script to update and cancel the users vote without reloading the page. This should be fairly easy for a Javascript / PHP coder.
RE: Forum users: do we need the 5 star thread rating system? - Mirio - 05-15-2012
(05-15-2012, 01:33 PM)Halogene Wrote: That's a thing that I wondered about, how do you rate posts? Sorry for off topic question...
Hell we are in the Off Topic section!
There is a button "+ Rate" under every single post, it also adds +1 reputation point to this user.
See here:
http://ompldr.org/vZHJoNA
RE: Forum users: do we need the 5 star thread rating system? - Majki - 05-15-2012
What would be cool - voting for posts and user get rank based on amount of + or _ he has received.
RE: Forum users: do we need the 5 star thread rating system? - Mr. Bougo - 05-16-2012
(05-15-2012, 05:26 PM)Majki Wrote: What would be cool - voting for posts and user get rank based on amount of + or _ he has received.
Uh, that already exists, it's called "reputation".
RE: Forum users: do we need the 5 star thread rating system? - divVerent - 05-16-2012
(05-15-2012, 04:31 PM)Spaceman Wrote: No sane person likes/wants down votes (maybe our local gimp MikeeeeeeeUSA). A simple like/upvote/thumbs up button would be enough with a counter.
A table with thread_id, user_id. A simple query that counts the number of user_id's. Some Ajaxy script to update and cancel the users vote without reloading the page. This should be fairly easy for a Javascript / PHP coder.
Except that we didn't code this forum software.
We can turn off thread ratings, I personally simply don't care. But adding a new feature to it sounds stupid, as it'll be lost on the next update...
RE: Forum users: do we need the 5 star thread rating system? - Halogene - 05-18-2012
(05-15-2012, 05:21 PM)Mirio Wrote:(05-15-2012, 01:33 PM)Halogene Wrote: That's a thing that I wondered about, how do you rate posts? Sorry for off topic question...
Hell we are in the Off Topic section!
There is a button "+ Rate" under every single post, it also adds +1 reputation point to this user.
See here:
http://ompldr.org/vZHJoNA
And the strange thing is: I got no such button. Really.
RE: Forum users: do we need the 5 star thread rating system? - Spaceman - 05-18-2012
(05-18-2012, 05:18 AM)Halogene Wrote:(05-15-2012, 05:21 PM)Mirio Wrote:(05-15-2012, 01:33 PM)Halogene Wrote: That's a thing that I wondered about, how do you rate posts? Sorry for off topic question...
Hell we are in the Off Topic section!
There is a button "+ Rate" under every single post, it also adds +1 reputation point to this user.
See here:
http://ompldr.org/vZHJoNA
And the strange thing is: I got no such button. Really.
I do
RE: Forum users: do we need the 5 star thread rating system? - chooksta - 05-18-2012
ild like a 9000 star rating.
maybe over....
t
:^
RE: Forum users: do we need the 5 star thread rating system? - Mr. Bougo - 05-18-2012
(05-18-2012, 05:18 AM)Halogene Wrote:(05-15-2012, 05:21 PM)Mirio Wrote:(05-15-2012, 01:33 PM)Halogene Wrote: That's a thing that I wondered about, how do you rate posts? Sorry for off topic question...
Hell we are in the Off Topic section!
There is a button "+ Rate" under every single post, it also adds +1 reputation point to this user.
See here:
http://ompldr.org/vZHJoNA
And the strange thing is: I got no such button. Really.
Huh. The admin CP tells me you're using the dark_xonotic_v1 something theme, which has this button. Can you try reloading without cache? (That's shift-f5 in firefox I think)
EDIT: Okay then, let's give this a try. The ratings are now gone!
EDIT: Hehe, side effect, the "share post" widgets are gone too. I don't like this stuff but I'll see if I can fix that.
EDIT: I brought it back then commented it out, the images are broken anyway...
EDIT: Feel free to have a look at the page source if you want to suggest a fix, it's on the left of the "new reply" post.
RE: Forum users: do we need the 5 star thread rating system? - chooksta - 05-18-2012
(05-16-2012, 12:58 AM)Mr. Bougo Wrote:(05-15-2012, 05:26 PM)Majki Wrote: What would be cool - voting for posts and user get rank based on amount of + or _ he has received.
Uh, that already exists, it's called "reputation".
REP HAS LOST ALL MEANING NOW
ITS A SCAM PEOPLE!
oh wait...
imo now someone will beat my genuine rep nerd point nerd thingo.
GOOD ON THEM!
YAY!
( t )
t
:^
i just noticed i cannot rate my own post
BOO
t
RE: Forum users: do we need the 5 star thread rating system? - Samual - 05-18-2012
Personally I would prefer simply a like or dislike system... that's how this works ANYWAY, people who like threads vote 5 star, people who don't like them vote 1 star.
RE: Forum users: do we need the 5 star thread rating system? - Halogene - 05-21-2012
(05-18-2012, 12:46 PM)Mr. Bougo Wrote:(05-18-2012, 05:18 AM)Halogene Wrote:(05-15-2012, 05:21 PM)Mirio Wrote:(05-15-2012, 01:33 PM)Halogene Wrote: That's a thing that I wondered about, how do you rate posts? Sorry for off topic question...
Hell we are in the Off Topic section!
There is a button "+ Rate" under every single post, it also adds +1 reputation point to this user.
See here:
http://ompldr.org/vZHJoNA
And the strange thing is: I got no such button. Really.
Huh. The admin CP tells me you're using the dark_xonotic_v1 something theme, which has this button. Can you try reloading without cache? (That's shift-f5 in firefox I think)
I completely shut down firefox already a couple of times, emptied the cache, fired up firefox on my Mac, on Arch Linux, Windows 7, and still I got the same result when logged in (when logged out, there's no rate button too, obviously).
THERE. IS. NO. FRIGGIN. RATE. POST. BUTTON. AAARGHGHG I WANNA RATE TOOO ALL TEH NEGATIVE RATINGS I HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO DO SO FAR ARGNGNGN
RE: Forum users: do we need the 5 star thread rating system? - Mr. Bougo - 05-21-2012
Can you screenshot, and also save the html page, zip that up, and send it to me?
RE: Forum users: do we need the 5 star thread rating system? - unfa - 05-21-2012
I think this thread rating system could be simplified to +1 / 0 / -1.
Or disabled.
RE: Forum users: do we need the 5 star thread rating system? - Halogene - 05-21-2012
(05-21-2012, 03:51 AM)Mr. Bougo Wrote: Can you screenshot, and also save the html page, zip that up, and send it to me?
Sure, here you go.
My noscript plugin currently blocks only google analytics, I don't think that's related.
Screen:
Zip of the html code:
showthread.php.html.zip (Size: 17.68 KB / Downloads: 2)
RE: Forum users: do we need the 5 star thread rating system? - Mr. Bougo - 05-21-2012
What the crap.
I reviewed your settings and nothing seems special about them. Looks like a forum bug.
You'll have to bug -z- or antibody about this I'm afraid
RE: Forum users: do we need the 5 star thread rating system? - Halogene - 05-21-2012
I seem to see the link "rate this user" in a post on WW, but not as a picture.
Well never mind, since multiple ratings are now anyway allowed, I'm fine. No need to invest time into this.