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Xonotic players in Warsow. - Finko - 01-26-2014
I start to play warsow, and as far i know some other guys from xonotic too.So maybe make some fun(or not) team in warsow?
RE: Xonotic players in Warsow. - Mirio - 01-26-2014
Oooooor play Xonotic.
RE: Xonotic players in Warsow. - Finko - 01-26-2014
I can play both, also i play it for fun, too much xonotic hurts my psyhic
RE: Xonotic players in Warsow. - machine! - 01-26-2014
I'm interested, I play bomb and ca.
RE: Xonotic players in Warsow. - rad dj flimflam - 01-26-2014
deserters will be shot.
RE: Xonotic players in Warsow. - aa - 01-26-2014
But youll have to go and play warsaw to do that.
RE: Xonotic players in Warsow. - SpiKe - 01-27-2014
I'm in for fun team :p
Mirio: I still prefer Xonotic <3
RE: Xonotic players in Warsow. - Smilecythe - 01-27-2014
Shitty netcode, no thanks.
RE: Xonotic players in Warsow. - _naem - 01-29-2014
(01-27-2014, 04:13 AM)Smilecythe Wrote: Shitty netcode, no thanks.
umm.. could you explain what you mean? for me, for example, it's one of those things that distinguish wsw from the crowd. without going into details, I can say that almost every day I play on NA servers (and I'm just on the other side of the globe). most other games are not playable especially in this situation..
btw, I can't say that's easy for me to play both games at the same time (despite certain similarities)
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RE: Xonotic players in Warsow. - end user - 01-29-2014
Well I played it a bit along with Alien Arena, looked fun but couldn't get past the cartoon characters. I think if would be better if the whole game was cartoon like the characters.
RE: Xonotic players in Warsow. - Greaserpirate - 01-29-2014
(01-29-2014, 04:43 PM)end user Wrote: Well I played it a bit along with Alien Arena, looked fun but couldn't get past the cartoon characters. I think if would be better if the whole game was cartoon like the characters.
it is...
RE: Xonotic players in Warsow. - Smilecythe - 01-30-2014
(01-29-2014, 09:51 AM)_naem Wrote: umm.. could you explain what you mean?
It just seems to me there's no lag compensation at all, railgun hits aren't hits with just even a slightly bit of extra ping.
RE: Xonotic players in Warsow. - _naem - 01-30-2014
(01-30-2014, 07:12 AM)Smilecythe Wrote: It just seems to me there's no lag compensation at all, railgun hits aren't hits with just even a slightly bit of extra ping.
well, there is lag compensation. and it is enabled by default. cl_extrapolate ("1": new prediction model which came with 0.6, gives "-20 ms" to the real ping and smoothes movement of the models. "0": disable, in result higher but real ping, movement of the models less smother but more accurate).
personally I have it always enabled (though i have bind to switch).
about railgun difference: from my expirience it's easier to shoot enemy with minstanex then in warsow, but harder with nex (there is no difference between electrobolt and instagun in warsow in this aspect)
the reason for your feelings, I think, in something else.
some assumptions:
*difference in hitboxes (octagonal in wsw). bigvic model fits it better (padpork is ok too)
*some settings. just in case you did not have time to configure it
-m_raw (raw mouse input, should be "1" if possible ("0" by default))
-cg_oldmovement ("1" for quake-style (CPMA like) movement, "0" (default) gives +forward accel (not the same as xonotic current movement), harder to hit and move for me (although used by some pro duelers without apparent reason))
*dunno. maybe you constantly play on a very low ping?. not my case. higher ping means less flick shots ofc. but i'm fine with that
well that is my guesses..
anyway everyone is free to try and play one (or both) of these games. i just think netcode should not be the reason
RE: Xonotic players in Warsow. - Halogene - 01-30-2014
I have to agree with Smilecythe that the electrobolt feels totally different than the nex or the minstanex. Personally I don't really feel an accuracy difference between nex and minstanex, but whenever I play Warsow (which is fairly seldom partly due to this), I find the electrobolt totally useless as I never seem to score a hit when pressing the fire button happens with the enemy in my crosshair. I always seem to have to miss the enemy slightly, and then I have a chance of hitting (or not).
I admit to be highly biased as I am used to Xonotic for so long time already, but to me it really feels like with nex/minstanex I mostly score a hit when I fire with the enemy in my crosshair, whereas in Warsow I mostly don't.
Otherwise I think Warsow is a very nice game, I love the cartoon look and how elegant and fast people move in CA (which I totally can't reproduce).
RE: Xonotic players in Warsow. - dizzy - 01-30-2014
(01-30-2014, 07:12 AM)Smilecythe Wrote:(01-29-2014, 09:51 AM)_naem Wrote: umm.. could you explain what you mean?
It just seems to me there's no lag compensation at all, railgun hits aren't hits with just even a slightly bit of extra ping.
I've never had this problem, I hit rails with 200+ ping on warsow without leading my target. When did you play last?
RE: Xonotic players in Warsow. - tZork - 01-30-2014
(01-30-2014, 12:42 PM)_naem Wrote: ...Unless something changed the code path that handles nex and minstanex is 100% identical; the only difference is damage and visuals. So any perceived difference between the two in ease of use is in you head
about railgun difference: from my expirience it's easier to shoot enemy with minstanex then in warsow, but harder with nex
...
Of course refire / animation time and such may also be different; perhaps thats what you 'feel' As for the way xonotic deals with this, its fairly a fool-proof anti lag (player location are "scanned" back in time) system for all hitscan weapons.
RE: Xonotic players in Warsow. - end user - 01-30-2014
(01-29-2014, 05:28 PM)Greaserpirate Wrote:(01-29-2014, 04:43 PM)end user Wrote: Well I played it a bit along with Alien Arena, looked fun but couldn't get past the cartoon characters. I think if would be better if the whole game was cartoon like the characters.
it is...
'No to me the character style (cartoon) didn't fit with the level designs I saw. Anyways not my cup of tea, I think Alien Arena looked better but that's just personal taste.
RE: Xonotic players in Warsow. - Smilecythe - 02-02-2014
(01-30-2014, 12:42 PM)_naem Wrote: about railgun difference: from my expirience it's easier to shoot enemy with minstanex then in warsow, but harder with nex (there is no difference between electrobolt and instagun in warsow in this aspect)Difference might be in the fire rate, some instagib servers in Xonotic have faster fire rate than default Minsta/Nex.
RE: Xonotic players in Warsow. - Racoon - 02-03-2014
The mouse to me while playing warsow feels wierd. I cannot explain how or why but it just does it to me.