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Splash damage VISUALLY bleeding through surfaces - Lee_Stricklin - 09-18-2014
EDIT: Added a picture
Title is self-explanatory, I think it would be beneficial for explosion effects, etc. to penetrate surfaces to reflect the fact that you can get splash damaged through objects, something that most new players don't immediately catch on.
RE: Splash damage VISUALLY bleeding through surfaces - asyyy - 09-19-2014
Yes if you manage to make it visible as shockwaves or such.
No if you want to make smoke and flames simply penetrate walls.
In general it is a good idea to give players more feedback about how the game works, definitely something that Xonotic could work on.
RE: Splash damage VISUALLY bleeding through surfaces - Halogene - 09-19-2014
I wonder how one could make that visible without looking odd? But generally I agree, yes.
RE: Splash damage VISUALLY bleeding through surfaces - Smilecythe - 09-19-2014
Some kind of shockwave or burst of dust would be nice indeed. Thicker the penetrated surface, smaller the effect obviously though.
RE: Splash damage VISUALLY bleeding through surfaces - Lee_Stricklin - 09-20-2014
(09-19-2014, 04:53 AM)asyyy Wrote: Yes if you manage to make it visible as shockwaves or such.
No if you want to make smoke and flames simply penetrate walls.
In general it is a good idea to give players more feedback about how the game works, definitely something that Xonotic could work on.
I wasn't even thinking shockwaves, but that sounds like an excellent idea as well. What I had in mind was closer to what you didn't want lol which would be explosions going through floors, etc. maybe sending chunks flying out as if the wall or whatever got hit had been seriously damaged for a tiny bit of time. Maybe have that happen followed immediately by some sort of effect that gives the player the impression that the arena sort of repaired itself. I personally think making it look like shrapnel penetrated the geometry would work well for explosive weapons, then use a pulse for the laser, and electrical shockwaves for energy weapons. btw I added a sloppy illustration to my first post.
RE: Splash damage VISUALLY bleeding through surfaces - tZork - 09-20-2014
This is an interesting idea.
Theres a few ways to do it.
The simplest being a separate, solids penetrating, effect thats fairly discrete compared to the main one. So it would be noticeable on the "other side" but not interfere much with the bigboomyboom. Theres if the issue scaling to fit damage radius, but all effects has that.
More fancy way would be running a few backtraces from the rim of the explosion radius. If those hits solid, play some effect there. This way automatically solves the scaling issue, but costs more CPU time. Could (and should) be done client side though, so it should not be too bad. Could be extended for playing alternate sound effects too.