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My Xonotic Journey (things I learn as a newbie) - BuddyFriendGuy - 04-02-2015 Hi all, What am I trying to do? I'm using this thread to keep a list of things I (as a newbie player to Xonotic) learn about this game from various sources, including other generous players, folks in this forum, the internet, etc. I had only played one other FPS game (World of Padman) before, and have found that, many things that are obvious to experienced players, may not be so for me. The idea is: the process of documenting my journey as a newbie may be helpful for the official documentation. I'll probably write a new post to this thread here whenever I learn something new, but I'll try to edit this first post of the thread to include new information for your convenience. There is the excellent Halogene's Newbie Corner, and it contains a ton of very useful information for a beginner to become a better player. Here I'm listing things that's either not in Halogene's guide or is misread by me (and is probably going to be misread by other beginners). I don't intend to replicate the existing documentation out there, but I'm sure there will be some overlap. By the way, two other guides you shouldn't miss:
Hopefully at some point, these pieces of information can end up being included in the Wiki. Where did I learn various things?
Weapons
Items
HUD
Movement
Hooking Techniques @Luigi kindly and patiently showed me these tips and techniques on his server. It was very illuminating!
Game Modes
Specific Maps
General Game Playing Tips
Recording Gameplay I found it very educational to record the gameplay for later reviewing. The best way for me so far, is to record all games as a demo file, and if there's a publish need, convert the demo into a common video format. To automatically record every game play: Multiplayer -> Demos -> Auto record demos. You can play the demos in this same menu. The demo files are relatively small (a 10-minute game produces a 5MB file for me). This wiki article has details on where the files go and how to convert them to common video formats. Antibody also writes a blog post about compiling highlights. Other Tips
RE: My Xonotic Journey (things I learn as a newbie) - Halogene - 04-03-2015 You might want to check out the Newbie Corner? RE: My Xonotic Journey (things I learn as a newbie) - GoregeousGuy - 04-03-2015 I would also recommend you to learn trickjumps, there are ramps and tiny platforms on almost every map, that can lead to to a special item very fast or that help you escape from an enemy. RE: My Xonotic Journey (things I learn as a newbie) - -z- - 04-03-2015 Hey BuddyFriendGuy, I think this post is an interesting take on the process of learning about the game mechanics and various features. As Halogene mentioned, the Newbie Corner is a great guide but I think it's important that we also understand the organic experience of learning as not every player will start out there... or even want to read all that before playing. All that said, I just want to make a few corrections. (04-02-2015, 08:37 PM)BuddyFriendGuy Wrote: [*]-z- pointed out some info written by the Nexiuz community still applies to Xonotic. This was actually just a sub-community I ran with other players who enjoyed playing the game in a specific way. The old Nexuiz forums can be found archived at alienTRAP (04-02-2015, 08:37 PM)BuddyFriendGuy Wrote: [*]In a 4-way CTF map with two teams, each team has two bases to protect, and the enemy has two bases to steal from. I was very confused when I was watching the flag and my team kept scoring somewhere else. This was actually in regards to a specific map, f4cing_worlds. One I remixed during the Nexuiz days prior to more than 2 team CTF existing. Xonotic now supports more than 2 team CTF, example being gasoline_powered_3team. (04-02-2015, 08:37 PM)BuddyFriendGuy Wrote: [*]-z- recommends the Arena mode to really learn. It's a more purer environment to establish one's hiding, moving, defending, and attacking strategies. Duel* a 1v1. There are two types of popular Arena modes on the servers, Clan Arena (CA) and Weapon Arena (WA). The are similar in the fact that you are given all weapons at start. In CA it's round based TDM where when you die, you're dead for that round. WA is DM with all weapons, kind of like warm up mode. By the way, I'm a male . I think this is a great post and it can get us thinking about outreach and education a bit differently. One thing Nexuiz had that was great was a tutorial map. I would like to organize an effort to revamp / rethink that for Xonotic. In addition a server-based map where players can learn and train together I think could help. I have some plans for this from NN's dojo I can post in another thread (not to hijack this one). Keep up the good work, glad to have you here in our community. RE: My Xonotic Journey (things I learn as a newbie) - BuddyFriendGuy - 04-04-2015 (04-03-2015, 06:51 AM)GoregeousGuy Wrote: I would also recommend you to learn trickjumps, there are ramps and tiny platforms on almost every map, that can lead to to a special item very fast or that help you escape from an enemy. Thank you. It is tricky, like its name. I've seen other players jumping super high while I got killed in my third attempt. I'm working on that. (04-03-2015, 06:29 AM)Halogene Wrote: You might want to check out the Newbie Corner? (04-03-2015, 11:38 AM)-z- Wrote: As Halogene mentioned, the Newbie Corner is a great guide but I think it's important that we also understand the organic experience of learning as not every player will start out there... or even want to read all that before playing. That is indeed a great guide! I did check out Halogene' guide and I am still learning from it. The things I list here are either not covered in that guide, or if they are, I must have misread them. I edited my post to clarify that. I think that guide is excellent for beginners to become better players. However, I think we still need a basic game manual that explains, say, every single element in the HUD (say, what's pl in the scoreboard?), or even tells me that the watery thingy will harm me. I just added to my post that when I see a ladder, I need to look up and go forward; I had tried jumping frenetically. (04-03-2015, 11:38 AM)-z- Wrote: All that said, I just want to make a few corrections. Thank you! I corrected some of them in my post. (04-03-2015, 11:38 AM)-z- Wrote:(04-02-2015, 08:37 PM)BuddyFriendGuy Wrote: [*]-z- recommends the Arena mode to really learn. It's a more purer environment to establish one's hiding, moving, defending, and attacking strategies. (Were you trying to say "Duel is a 1v1"?) Need some clarification here. I was looking for a "Duel" or a "1v1" mode in the game mode section of the Wiki, and only found two modes that are for two people: "Arena" and "1v1 Duel"; then I tried to find them in my Multiplayer->Create menu->Gametype, I can't see them. I only see:
Are Duel (or 1v1), or Weapon Arena just specific server configurations on Deathmatch? (04-03-2015, 11:38 AM)-z- Wrote: By the way, I'm a male .Corrected that, too. (04-03-2015, 11:38 AM)-z- Wrote: One thing Nexuiz had that was great was a tutorial map. I would like to organize an effort to revamp / rethink that for Xonotic. In addition a server-based map where players can learn and train together I think could help. I have some plans for this from NN's dojo I can post in another thread (not to hijack this one). I'm not a good mapper; heck, actually I'm not a mapper at all, but I was actually trying to make maps for my own learning. For example:
When you start that thread, I'll bring these ideas over to join the disucssion. RE: My Xonotic Journey (things I learn as a newbie) - Mirio - 04-04-2015 About the gamemodes: Duel is not a real gamemmode (yet), it's just Deathmatch limited to 2 players. That's why it is a subitem of DM in that wiki section, but technically you could play Duel in any gamemode. The wiki is not always up-to-date, because the game is changing quite a lot of course and someone has to find the time to maintain it. Some modes..
RE: My Xonotic Journey (things I learn as a newbie) - BuddyFriendGuy - 04-06-2015 (04-04-2015, 04:17 AM)Mirio Wrote: The wiki is not always up-to-date, because the game is changing quite a lot of course and someone has to find the time to maintain it. I see. (04-04-2015, 04:17 AM)Mirio Wrote: Some modes.. I'm quite confused by this actually, since there are servers I see players still playing races. Does it mean I'm actually running the game code downloaded from that server? If so, does it mean that even if the official Xonotic package does not come with the Race mode, I can still connect to those servers to Race with other players? Also, is there any security concern when we run code downloaded from the server? For example:
RE: My Xonotic Journey (things I learn as a newbie) - Pendulla - 04-06-2015 Sweet mother of mercy, how many questions are you capable of asking in a short period of time..... Welcome dude RE: My Xonotic Journey (things I learn as a newbie) - BuddyFriendGuy - 04-06-2015 (04-06-2015, 11:53 AM)Pendulla Wrote: Sweet mother of mercy, how many questions are you capable of asking in a short period of time..... That probably means I spent too much time playing lately. (04-06-2015, 11:53 AM)Pendulla Wrote: Welcome dude Thanks! Pleasure to join. RE: My Xonotic Journey (things I learn as a newbie) - divVerent - 04-07-2015 (04-06-2015, 02:03 AM)BuddyFriendGuy Wrote: Also, is there any security concern when we run code downloaded from the server? For example: The security policy is as follows: QC code can't create any symlinks. QC code can read anything below ~/.xonotic/*/ including stuff pointed-to by symlinks (which, as the game can't create any, would have to have been placed by yourself). It can't read your private key in ~/.xonotic/*.d0si. QC code can write anything below ~/.xonotic/data including your config. Paths are properly sanitized according to this policy. QC code can send arbitrary data back anywhere (by using the "connect" command). RE: My Xonotic Journey (things I learn as a newbie) - BuddyFriendGuy - 04-08-2015 Thanks! Added this to Wiki. RE: My Xonotic Journey (things I learn as a newbie) - BuddyFriendGuy - 06-28-2015 Today @Luigi showed me a few hooking techniques. I updated the first post to include them. He's incredibly patient -- it took him 5 demonstrations for me to even understand the first tip. He tried different ways to explain things and finally I got it. I'm so very grateful! RE: My Xonotic Journey (things I learn as a newbie) - BuddyFriendGuy - 04-08-2020 I was posting my frozen frame problem video in another thread to ask for help, and realized I never included the video of @Luigi's lesson for me. Here it is. His generosity is inspiring and I have tried to pay it forward for other fellow new comers. RE: My Xonotic Journey (things I learn as a newbie) - BuddyFriendGuy - 10-08-2020 I want to share two tips I got from other players.
Wonderful community, isn't it? RE: My Xonotic Journey (things I learn as a newbie) - Antibody - 10-09-2020 Be careful of the hackability that Xonotic affords. You'll get spoiled and will have a hard time playing other games! RE: My Xonotic Journey (things I learn as a newbie) - BuddyFriendGuy - 10-09-2020 (10-09-2020, 12:15 PM)Antibody Wrote: Be careful of the hackability that Xonotic affords. You'll get spoiled and will have a hard time playing other games! Not a problem if I don't play other games. RE: My Xonotic Journey (things I learn as a newbie) - NoClue - 10-13-2020 I learned that you can reload the MG by pressing the keybind for it again. There is no seperate reload key needed (means you got one more key for a weapon bind). |