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Raising funds for new graphics/models - MarisaG - 10-06-2018
Im trying to raise funds for a professional artist to create new assets for Xonotic, mainly models and textures. I have many artist contacts within the Opensim community and I am hoping some of them will be able to create content for Xonotic. Here is a link to my fund raising campaign: https://fps.gameplayer.club/index.php/donations/fund-raising/raise-funds-for-xonotic-content. Do people think this is a worthwhile project?
RE: Raising funds for new graphics/models - Freddy - 10-06-2018
Before you raise funds for new assets you should definitely make sure that you find an artist who can (and wants to) create assets and also knows how to get them ingame. Knowing roughly how much they want for it is also important.
From what I've heard the tools needed to create the proper formats are quite tricky and require some knowledge, so artists need to know what they're doing.
RE: Raising funds for new graphics/models - Antibody - 10-06-2018
There's also no mention of licensing requirements: all content must be made available under copyleft licensing (specific details vary, but GPLv3 is always fine).
RE: Raising funds for new graphics/models - Smilecythe - 10-06-2018
I would recommend getting in touch with Morphed, hes the one responsible for most of the recent weapon/item model upgrades. He's a talented artist, has experience working with the Xonotic team and has already established a style consistency that fits Xonotic aesthetically.
RE: Raising funds for new graphics/models - MarisaG - 10-07-2018
Im planning on going through my Opensim modeler friends, and some artists they recommend. Planning on setting up a fund to use for this project and apply it to the best artists I can find. All artwork will be provided by the GPL license to be included in the main xonotic builds, unless another license is preferred...
RE: Raising funds for new graphics/models - MarisaG - 10-10-2018
(10-08-2018, 05:04 AM)Lyberta Wrote: I suggest to dual license with CC BY-SA 4.0 too.
Ok, sounds good!
RE: Raising funds for new graphics/models - poVoq - 10-11-2018
I would be willing to chip in some funds for new high quality player models, but not on some shady website from a user that barely just joined a month ago. Don't take it personally
RE: Raising funds for new graphics/models - illwieckz - 10-11-2018
(10-06-2018, 10:02 AM)Antibody Wrote: There's also no mention of licensing requirements: all content must be made available under copyleft licensing (specific details vary, but GPLv3 is always fine).
Don't forget the “or later”, that's because people did not forget it at GPLv2 time we can now ask for GPLv3 today.
(10-08-2018, 05:04 AM)Lyberta Wrote: I suggest to dual license with CC BY-SA 4.0 too.
Yes, and by the way CC BY-SA 4.0 is known to be one-way GPLv3 compatible (from CC to GPL):
- [creativecommons.org] CC BY-SA 4.0 now one-way compatible with GPLv3
- [fsf.org] Creative Commons BY-SA 4.0 declared one-way compatible with GNU GPL version 3
So the safest option would be to dual license assets with both “GPLv3 or later and CC BY-SA 4.0 or later”.
Note that CC BY and CC BY-SA ar “or later” by default for derivative work since CC 2.0:
- 1.0 “You may distribute, publicly display, publicly perform, or publicly digitally perform a Derivative Work only under the terms of this License”
- 2.0 “You may distribute, publicly display, publicly perform, or publicly digitally perform a Derivative Work only under the terms of this License, a later version of this License with the same License Elements as this License, or a Creative Commons iCommons license that contains the same License Elements as this License (e.g. Attribution-ShareAlike 2.0 Japan)”
- 2.5 “You may distribute, publicly display, publicly perform, or publicly digitally perform a Derivative Work only under the terms of this License, a later version of this License with the same License Elements as this License, or a Creative Commons iCommons license that contains the same License Elements as this License (e.g. Attribution-ShareAlike 2.5 Japan)”
- 3.0 “You may Distribute or Publicly Perform an Adaptation only under the terms of: (i) this License; (ii) a later version of this License with the same License Elements as this License; (iii) a Creative Commons jurisdiction license (either this or a later license version) that contains the same License Elements as this License (e.g., Attribution-ShareAlike 3.0 US)); (iv) a Creative Commons Compatible License”
- 4.0 “Section 3 – License Conditions. b. ShareAlike. In addition to the conditions in Section 3(a), if You Share Adapted Material You produce, the following conditions also apply. The Adapter’s License You apply must be a Creative Commons license with the same License Elements, this version or later, or a BY-SA Compatible License”
Notice the “derivative work”, the wording always talk about other possible licenses when derivated. For raw copies, if we use CC BY-SA 4.0 as an example we can read:
- 4.0 “If You Share the Licensed Material […], You must: retain the following if it is supplied by the Licensor with the Licensed Material: […] a notice that refers to this Public License”
RE: Raising funds for new graphics/models - MarisaG - 10-12-2018
(10-11-2018, 10:10 AM)poVoq Wrote: I would be willing to chip in some funds for new high quality player models, but not on some shady website from a user that barely just joined a month ago. Don't take it personally
How would you feel about indiegogo?
RE: Raising funds for new graphics/models - MarisaG - 10-12-2018
How does this look? https://www.gofundme.com/new-graphics-for-the-xonotic-fps&rcid=r01-153932712689-eb404d49ef484482&pc=ot_co_campmgmt_w
Also, should I look for new models, maps, or both?
RE: Raising funds for new graphics/models - BuddyFriendGuy - 10-17-2018
This is a bit too vague. How about getting a quote from somebody who can commit to do the work, with clearly defined deliverables and time lines?
Instead of $1,000 for everything, perhaps break it down to smaller goals, say, one model at a time?
RE: Raising funds for new graphics/models - MarisaG - 10-17-2018
You're right, it needs to be more planned out. Before accepting one I would think it is important to review the portfolio and some example models and define what we will pay for what... Will be doing that for my efforts... Have a couple modelers in contact but not seen their examples yet...
RE: Raising funds for new graphics/models - Snowball - 03-11-2019
(10-06-2018, 12:02 PM)Lyberta Wrote: I'd say more important thing is to bring Xonotic to a better engine - Daemon - but that would require at least a year of full time work so if paid it would be in the ballpark of $100,000.
you could use some version of source.the easiest way i can think of to port the game other is to strip the current game of all graphical components and just have it handling movement and weather that shot hit or not etc. than use a different engine to handle graphics and sound. Source could be great because it might be compatible with xonotics graphical assets.
just make sure you use souce2 because its graphics are really good.
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RE: Raising funds for new graphics/models - BuddyFriendGuy - 03-13-2019
(03-11-2019, 07:09 PM)Lyberta Wrote: My plan is to fork DarkPlaces and start slowly rewriting everything in modern C++ and slowly trying to replicate (sadly undocumented) Daemon API. But right now I'm swarmed with other stuff. Martin-t has ambitious plan to transpile QuakeC code to Rust, but that's a radical step which I'm not sure is possible to pull off with current developer resources.
Do you mean to write the game code directly in C++ without the engine?