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Anti Vehicle Weapon - rainerzufalldererste - 08-28-2010
In Xonotic will be some vehicles, right?
So I thought (after playing a bit UT3) we need a Anti Vehicle Weapon, too!
Some weapon that rocket locks on a vehicle (like TAG Seeker but bigger)
![[Image: 20071028.weapons_pik_g_avril.png]](http://www.amio.cn/blog/uploads/2007/20071028.weapons_pik_g_avril.png)
that's the UT3 one
RE: Anti Vehicle Weapon - Lee_Stricklin - 08-28-2010
I think anti-vehicle weapons could be more bad ass versions of stuff that already exists with alternate models, like a harder hitting nex and a mean rocket launcher that locks onto targets. Also I think a more Armored Core 3 inspired look (picture miniature versions of some of the mechs' guns wielded by players) would work better than a UT3 inspired one for antivehicular weapons. Vehicles in my opinion are going to be a bit tricky to fine tune in my opinion because of how fast you already move on foot. There isn't a single doubt in my mind that Xonotic will be the fastest FPS ever made.
RE: Anti Vehicle Weapon - Mr. Bougo - 08-28-2010
Vehicles in Xonotic? Who ever said that? :x
RE: Anti Vehicle Weapon - rainerzufalldererste - 08-28-2010
(07-30-2010, 03:01 PM)_para Wrote:
maybe a new vehicle? but i need some texturing and rigging knowleges..
(and its only highpoly for the render)
atm i can define the poly amount with the subsurface thingy...
![[Image: test43.png]](http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/7039/test43.png)
(07-30-2010, 05:17 PM)Roanoke Wrote: But maps aren't long enough to comfortably accommodate a plane (there's already an aerial vehicle in the works).
RE: Anti Vehicle Weapon - Mr. Bougo - 08-28-2010
Yes, in that sense Nexuiz also had vehicles. It's a side project, I wouldn't expect vehicles in the first Xonotic releases :x
RE: Anti Vehicle Weapon - rainerzufalldererste - 08-28-2010
Did I say
rainerzufalldererste didn't Wrote:WE MUST HAVE THIS WEAPON! NOW! IN THE FIRST XONOTIC RELEASE! EVER!hmmm?
RE: Anti Vehicle Weapon - Mr. Bougo - 08-28-2010
No, you appeared to expect vehicles in Xonotic, as it looks like you're making a feature suggestion for the main development branch.
RE: Anti Vehicle Weapon - vede - 08-28-2010
Well, there's also this: http://dev.xonotic.org/issues/105
>.>
RE: Anti Vehicle Weapon - Mr. Bougo - 08-28-2010
Yes, it's a side project, it doesn't have a deadline (in terms of xonotic releases)
RE: Anti Vehicle Weapon - Lee_Stricklin - 08-28-2010
I wonder how fast the Wakizashi and Raptor will be. Since one of them is a race craft and the other is an aircraft, I can only imagine them being ridiculously fast since it's already possible to run like hell on foot.
RE: Anti Vehicle Weapon - theShadow - 08-28-2010
the wakazashi ATM is VERY VERY FAST. especially if you hold spacebar
(I think it's a bug)
RE: Anti Vehicle Weapon - clanclanclan - 08-28-2010
I only scrolled down a bit at first, and when the first thing I saw was the UT3 weapon, I was like 0o, that's amazing. Then I read the "from UT3" bit
I've never tried out the vehicles, so I might use this thread to ask how to in Xonotic (I can see all of the vehicle stuff in master, is it in working order?).
Anyone know?
RE: Anti Vehicle Weapon - rainerzufalldererste - 08-29-2010
I also haven't tried the vehicles yet! Is there a video about them or can someone make one?
RE: Anti Vehicle Weapon - Fisume - 08-29-2010
So we won't have those spiderbots on the first release?
RE: Anti Vehicle Weapon - Mr. Bougo - 08-29-2010
We don't need them for the first release, no.
RE: Anti Vehicle Weapon - Fisume - 08-29-2010
(08-29-2010, 05:53 AM)Mr. Bougo Wrote: We don't need them for the first release, no.
![[Image: avatar-349vn8a.png]](http://www.abload.de/img/avatar-349vn8a.png){kind=avatar}
Joke, yeah I understand that.
RE: Anti Vehicle Weapon - poVoq - 08-29-2010
(08-29-2010, 04:20 AM)rainerzufalldererste Wrote: I also haven't tried the vehicles yet! Is there a video about them or can someone make one?
Here ya go (from the Nexuiz board)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kXulpoulGBU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JAHzMY80P70
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J9AAbjWbZA4
RE: Anti Vehicle Weapon - rainerzufalldererste - 08-29-2010
oh thx!
now I can agree with you: they are really very FAST!!!
RE: Anti Vehicle Weapon - XV22 - 08-29-2010
why not just give each weapon a damage factor on vehicles, for example, the rocket launcher is the most effective and the uzi has no effect at all or very small.
Rockets/Bombs in general have good effect and shells have small/no effect.
we can also have special effects. Electro, Nex, Crylink should have special effect since they shot some sort of energy. Example:
- Lightning weapon (electro), paralyzes the vehicle (can't move) as long as its beam is fired on it, but does no damage. The player inside still can fire weapons but cross-hair movement will be slow.
- Nex shocks the vehicle (and the player inside) and paralyzes it for say 3 seconds but does no damage. This may be a problem because of spam.
- Crylink heats up the vehicle and it starts to steadily hurt who is inside it after it reaches a specific value(degree) of heat.
another nice thing to have is to make ground vehicles like the spiderbot "flip" (or whatever word) so it's upside down, in that state it still can fire (maybe fire uzi only, but rockets will hit the ground and damage the vehicle itself), but it can't move of course.
This may of course need testing and balancing.
Any ideas/votes?
RE: Anti Vehicle Weapon - Lee_Stricklin - 08-29-2010
Why not draw some inspiration from games where fighting heavy vehicles is what you do most of the time? Take a look at this CG trailer. Most of the anti-vehicular weapons used by these mechs can simply be made by adapting the current arsenal by giving them different models and slightly different settings.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=os_gG0jLna4
RE: Anti Vehicle Weapon - Roanoke - 08-29-2010
Or we could just use tag...
RE: Anti Vehicle Weapon - Zailemaos - 08-29-2010
I dont think we need anti vehicle weapons.. sure vehicles MIGHT move faster than the normal avatar, however, a vehicle is easier to hit because it's bigger *pulls out hagar*
RE: Anti Vehicle Weapon - Lee_Stricklin - 08-30-2010
(08-29-2010, 10:35 PM)Zailemaos Wrote: I dont think we need anti vehicle weapons.. sure vehicles MIGHT move faster than the normal avatar, however, a vehicle is easier to hit because it's bigger *pulls out hagar*
Hagar seems like it would be a VERY devastating spam weapon to use on vehicles indeed.
RE: Anti Vehicle Weapon - rainerzufalldererste - 08-30-2010
(08-29-2010, 06:43 PM)Roanoke Wrote: Or we could just use tag...
TAG Seeker isn't powerful enough! But maybe a big TAG Seeker that shots only one rocket would be great!
RE: Anti Vehicle Weapon - MANERS - 09-02-2010
In my perfect world, we wouldn't need special weapons to take out vehicles. Regular weapons should destroy vehicles when focused on by a team pretty quickly. If Xonotic was class-based, then, yes, I would agree with making anti vehicle weapons, but it's just work to hunt down the gun, and once the vehicle is destroyed you will either be left with a useless weapon or an over powered weapon.
But, most Xonotic maps should NOT have vehicles in the far future. If I wanted that I would play Halo. But it would be a nice option.