balanceFruit.cfg

Flying_Steel I did indeed ask for the camping rifle to have some changes done to it, it's really easy to use actually/aim, the nex seems better suited at the moment,

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Also, headshot's are not as hard to hit/take skill as you might think. ( Either that, or I just am aiming higher then most other people ).

The headshot area is still much, much smaller than the entire player bounding box. This must make it more of a challenge to hit. making this area even smaller than it already is should make this even smaller.

So this is a fundamental difference between the Rifle and Nex which allows the former to fit into a niche and actually be balanced. If this is still insufficient, there's other things that can be done to make it fit one role or another, like range-damage falloff which no one has even looked at since it was implemented like a year ago.

I also am confused with what you want to do with the nex to make it 'fixed', the 'stickyness' doesn't fix anything,

You said yourself that the nex, along with the mortar and another weapon were used much more than the rest of the weapons. And also that the weapons aren't tactical enough or can all be used for every situation. Well the Nex was used for every situation, more so than any weapon.

But you are not sure if this is something that needs to be fixed and the weapon switch delay on the nex is purely a graphical feature for an animation that hasn't been implemented yet? It isn't meant to change the balance or is it? I don't really understand.

And I thought you were a believer of making this weapon less used all the time, If I'm wrong on the compiling part I apologise.

I am for making the Nex less overpowered. I've said that in every post that mentions the weapon. But it sounds like it will not be changed enough to be really balanced, and this weapon switch delay, while maybe making the Nex less overpowered, is not a very intuitive or clean solution, since it only happens with the Nex gun in particular.

I would much rather see the Nex debuffed in one or more ways besides this. And you could probably get away with it now politically speaking, because everyone dislikes the delay so much they'd take just about any other debuff. But it sounds like fruitiex is very attached to the legacy functionality of this weapon, so it is unlikely to truely change for the better, and that's what I was responding to.

Also I find it highly critical you comment on that, I thought you hadn't even compiled xonotic yet??

The trouble is. . . well. . . I can't! It's very frustrating, I've spent hours trying to figure it out but the damn thing just won't compile, the error it gives makes no sense to me and neither does it ring a bell for anyone else in the community apparently. Maybe it's because I'm using windows and everyone else is on a 'nix version.

But the bottom line is I probably won't be able to try this balance out until the first Xonotic unstable release, assuming that happens. That's got to be at least a month away, which means I'd otherwise have to remain totally silent about this until the balance is nearly mature.