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Alright I just screwed around with the latest git, here are my thoughts:
For the most part this balance is a HUGE improvement over that of Nexuiz 2.5.2, HOWEVER I do some gripes and here they are:

Health and Armor
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I'm completely against the limits placed on the health and armor stacking for the simple reason that it gives me less incentive to scour the maps and removes a vital strategy for taking flags. It also makes this game look more like a Quake III clone.


Weapons (Behavior, NOT BALANCE)
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Laser: Think my pellet gun is more useful than this thing now that it has very little push.

Shotgun: Primary feels kinda slowish with the fire rate.

Electro: BRING BACK THE ORIGINAL PRIMARY FIRE MODE.

Mortar: Really bummin' about the bouncy nades. Please bring back bouncy nades or find a way to get all three of it's firing modes onto the weapon. Making the secondary cycle through the grenade types would allow all three firing modes. Another suggestion would be to replace the primary fire with sticky nades and set them to explode if they get within a certain distance of a player while bringing back bouncy nades.

Crylink: The primary fire has too slow of a fire rate to make effective and at the same time fires WAAAY too many projectiles at once (should probably be made more like 2.5.2). The secondary essentially makes the HLAC a redundant weapon as well. In my opinion the new electro firing mode would be a good drop-in replacement for the Crylink secondary if it's range is chopped down.

The limits on health & armour should encourage to scour the maps more, because you will need to pick it up if you want to survive. Player's like myself will abuse no health & armour caps by just going around picking everything up (and cycle timing it all) and being 200/300 health/armour stacked monsters. It's not Quake III Cloning, UT series implements exactly the same thing, and it stops monster hoarding..we already have regenerating health which IS unique so I don't see the problem.

Laser: Ok, well it is not making the game so aerial now, it is still useful, try jumping then pressing fire you will gain a lot of height just not as much in nexuiz, I don't know really what more to say this other then I can only make a video/s to show how powerful it is with the new movement in the right hands..we tried it with the old settings and most of the current weapon settings, and it became the same old laser in the air constantly, CTF was exactly the same..cap after cap after cap because everyone is in the air all the time which is just seriously breaking maps and CTF specifically.

I even suggested for CTF specifically that FCs can't use the laser but this got a lot of 'omg wtf, you can't be serious will be too slow' replies, balance? Xonotic movement is quicker and fluent then nexuiz.

And yes some people didn't like originally but they got used to it and then quite liked it/can live with it, some people don't like it, but it certainly helps stop creating the game into a 4 weapon game like nexuiz.

Shotgun: Weapon with the least amount of 'complaints', it is good enough as a starting weapon now, I haven't heard near enough issues about the ROF of it, so I don't expect it to get changed.

Crylink: Rate of fire can perhaps be increased but the biggest issues people have commented on is the speed of it, therefore it's more likely the speed of the primary will be increased first as it's too slow and the damage may be upped, but the first change will/should be speed followed by damage if need be, it also fires as many shots as it did in nexuiz I believe it just looks like more because of the higher spread..although need someone to confirm this.

Mortar: Originally sticky grenades were primary and bouncy secondary, but too many people disliked this (nearly everyone who gave feedback at the time), they were happy with the sticky grenades but they wanted the mortar primary to be like the one in nexuiz, so sticky was swapped too secondary, there was concerns that giving the mortar 3 fire modes effectively will make it too strong and then there's the implementation side of it.

Electro, I don't see this being changed from the current fire-mode's to the old one except possible tweaks (ammo usage for sure) and maybe faster ROF for secondary balls or higher damage.