[SUGGESTION] Obligatory weapon balance thread!!111!!1!oneone!

I think the self-push force is perfectly fine at the moment, and the laser settings, so I'm not going too be pro for it. Also all of the maps you previously mentioned subzero were ALL nexuiz maps, not one Xonotic official map did you mention which is kind of sad - I hope for one we get a DCC CTF server with such maps as attic, courtfun, newtonian nightmare, apace, kuniu's new CTF Map (forgot the name), maps with much better quality. If you want too play them (nexuiz) maps, then play them with the Xonotic settings. Personally I think changing the laser strength just too incorporate easier laser padding is ridiculous.

"If game gets additional dynamics (and also if laser become more usefull in evasion) nex would naturally become less effective.
Especially in ctf that is the direction I would pursue."

And would also make the other weapons less effective naturally, again going back down the annoying path of nexuiz CTF, and before you try too counter argument that it wouldn't, if it makes probably the most effective weapon in CTF less effective, what do you think it's going to do to the others. One of the reasons I really enjoy Xonotic CTF is because it actually is not just about using the laser, and the fact it is no longer a NEX/MG fest like nexuiz, how many complaints/threads were there on the nexuiz boards about camping and just nexgun and mg all the time - lots. How many on the Xonotic forums - Zero I think?

@Boo
"Not wanting to admit this fact, is damaging not only for competitive game,but the game in total (this comes from a 99% nex+mortar user). Lets just accept that QL nailed this with the rail delay and adopt it . (could remove the heat up potentially)."

I agree, not sure others will, but as you stated - it's not wanting too admit that fact. It would definitely help cut down the nex/mortar combo effectiveness you talk about, whether people want too actually try it out is another matter, but I expect too see the 'weapon X is too underpowered' speech in the future otherwise