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sRGB vs old build system comparisons

#1
So I used the new sRGB build settings... and it turned out different from what I was expecting, so I went ahead and did an old-style compile as well. First picture is sRGB, second is the old build system.

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The only reason I can come up with for the notable difference is the fact that this map uses pretty much skybox lighting and surfacelight textures exclusively to light (there's a few exceptions here and there). I don't know the workings behind why this would happen, though. Also, I didn't get a screenshot, but sRGB didn't apply any light to the map from lava.

I used the final build level (Xonotic approved and recommended) for both. Also, Ultra effects on for both.

Best I can figure, sRGB doesn't like skylighting/surfacelight, or this is a bug, or something is screwed up on my end.
nowego [MLP:FiM]
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#2
Hooray for vertex lighting.


No idea why this is happening, though.
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#3
I never understood why sRGB is needed until now, and the examples I seen previously shown that sRGB looks a ton more horrible than the current lighting. But the screenshots you posted here are totally different from that. The right ones (which I assume are sRGB) look beautiful, and indeed a lot better. I'm surprised sRGB does that. If all maps will look that way in comparison, then yes... convert it all to sRGB Big Grin But I'm still confused.
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#4
(01-23-2013, 01:35 PM)MirceaKitsune Wrote: [...]The right ones (which I assume are sRGB) look beautiful, and indeed a lot better.[...]


(05-22-2012, 09:46 AM)nowego4 Wrote: [...]First picture is sRGB, second is the old build system.
[...]
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#5
Eh, not sure if there's some problem with my eyes, but the right(the ones with the old lighting(is this correct word/spelling btw?) system?) ones look slightly better in my opinion.
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#6
(01-23-2013, 02:12 PM)_para Wrote:
(01-23-2013, 01:35 PM)MirceaKitsune Wrote: [...]The right ones (which I assume are sRGB) look beautiful, and indeed a lot better.[...]


(05-22-2012, 09:46 AM)nowego4 Wrote: [...]First picture is sRGB, second is the old build system.
[...]

Ouch. Then I stick by my previous idea, sRGB is horrible Tongue
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#7
Wow, sRGB seems terrible.

Why was the switch made in the first place, as far as I know most displays today have gamuts way beyond sRGB.
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#8
Compiling maps with sRGB needs lighting to be made for sRGB. You just don't light a map with the usual settings then compile with sRGB. I'd like to see a map made for sRGB compiling compiled without it to get a fair comparison.

But anyway, you're railing on the visuals of something that's seemingly bugged. Isn't it better to do something about it to get it fixed instead?

s1lence: how does screen gamut mean that the old way is better than sRGB? I'm asking because I have no idea what you mean.
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