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Xonotic - a few questions

#1
Rainbow 
Sup guys,

first of all - I am new to this. Hello world!

I downloaded Nexuiz about two days ago and I've been having a blast. It reminds me of the old Quake 3 days. While playing online, another gamer informed about Xonotic, the spiritual successor to Nexuiz. So I went online and checked Wikipedia for some information. I then found some information about how Xonotic was born and the issues related to the Nexuiz project, but the one that caught my eye was this one:

Quote:In March 2010 a controversy arose over the original Nexuiz being licensed to Illfonic game studios in order to create a commercial version. The original creator, Lee Vermeulen, secretly made a deal with a company known as Illfonic according to which the latter got the hold over the Nexuiz trademark. Since this turn of events was unexpected by the community and most Nexuiz developers, they promised to create a fork controlled by a community in an open manner.

Is this true? Are the original Nexuiz devs and community members part of Xonotic now?

Some other/general questions:

- Is Xonotic made from scratch or was Nexuiz used as a base for this game?
- If Nexuiz was used as a base for this game; which version of Nexuiz is this game based on?
- How has development been going?
- Is this game still in beta?
- Is Xonotic more advanced than Nexuiz atm? What are the main differences between the two?

Some Ubuntu specific questions:

- How do I install Xonotic on Ubuntu 12.04.3 64-bit LTS?
- Will there be a version of Xonotic available via the Ubuntu Software Center one day? That's how I found Nexuiz btw.
- Are there any Ubuntu specific issues I should be aware of before installing Xonotic?
- Is there a ppa of Xonotic available for Ubuntu?

Thanks,
Soniee

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Mod edit: Fixed typo (Xonotoc)
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#2
Uh, lots of questions... just try it. Download the 0.7 release and unpack it somewhere and just start it. Alternatively you can try the autobuilds: http://forums.xonotic.org/showthread.php?tid=1863 for the most up to date development version.
Runs perfectly fine on Ubuntu btw.

Yes Xonotic is still in beta, but it is already a complete game and quite a bit better (in my opinion) than Nexuiz (on which it is based, same engine and also some models/maps left).

A ppa and repository release will come with version 1.0 I guess.
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#3
(01-27-2014, 03:21 PM)Soniee Wrote: Sup guys,

Yo!

Quote:In March 2010 ...
(01-27-2014, 03:21 PM)Soniee Wrote: Is this true? Are the original Nexuiz devs and community members part of Xonotic now?

Yes it is. But we're all over the drama now.
On the other hand, most original Nexuiz devs migrated to Xonotic at once. However, part of the die-hard Nexuiz community remained with the game, as we decided to change a few things here and there in Xonotic, and they felt by doing that we betrayed the project (just wtf on my side, but everybody has the right to have an opinion, even if it's totally twisted).

(01-27-2014, 03:21 PM)Soniee Wrote: - Is Xonotic made from scratch or was Nexuiz used as a base for this game?
- If Nexuiz was used as a base for this game; which version of Nexuiz is this game based on?

Xonotic is based on an officially unreleased version of Nexuiz. Back in the Nexuiz times, we used SVN as version tracking, now we use git. In the logs, you can find the initial commit:

Code:
initial checkin from nexuiz svn r8756

This is the SVN commit from Xonotic forked.

(01-27-2014, 03:21 PM)Soniee Wrote: - How has development been going?
Slowly, but steadily, with the some fluctuation in developer crew. People come and go, but that's normal for a project like this. We mostly have a new beta release almost every half year. We're currently at 0.7, and 0.8 is on it's way. Slowly, but steadily Wink

(01-27-2014, 03:21 PM)Soniee Wrote: - Is this game still in beta?

Yep.

(01-27-2014, 03:21 PM)Soniee Wrote: - Is Xonotic more advanced than Nexuiz atm? What are the main differences between the two?

Indeed it is. There are tons of updates on the engine, gameplay, gamemodes, we have new maps, higher quality media (textures, playermodels, sound effects, music menu etc.) Xonotic is so much different from Nexuiz now I cannot even pick the main differences. Almost 4 years of development.

(01-27-2014, 03:21 PM)Soniee Wrote: Some Ubuntu specific questions:

- How do I install Xonotic on Ubuntu 12.04.3 64-bit LTS?
Just download the zip file from our main site, extract it to somewhere in your home, and you're ready to go!

(01-27-2014, 03:21 PM)Soniee Wrote: - Will there be a version of Xonotic available via the Ubuntu Software Center one day? That's how I found Nexuiz btw.

Might happen in the future, but afaik it's not on the to-do list for now.

(01-27-2014, 03:21 PM)Soniee Wrote: - Are there any Ubuntu specific issues I should be aware of before installing Xonotic?
- Is there a ppa of Xonotic available for Ubuntu?

Not that I know of.
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#4
Remember to install libcurl on ubuntu, so you can download non-official maps offered by the server! Welcome to Xonotic!
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#5
Hello again,

thanks a bunch for the nice welcome and for answering all of my questions.

I'm downloading the game right now. I still have a question though: I just searched the Ubuntu Software Center for libcurl and I found a bunch of libcurl related things in there. Which file do I need exactly? Btw, it's nice that you guys made it so easy to download and run the game on Linux. I tend to stick to the USC for usability reasons.. it's much easier. Usually a lot of projects offer a .tar and then you have to get your hands dirty. I really like the ease of use approach you guys are offering.

Soniee
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#6
Here is a FAQ: http://www.xonotic.org/the-game/faq/

Also Halogenes "Newbie Corner": http://www.xonotic.org/tag/newbie/

and if you want just join us in IRC (QuakeNet): #xonotic / #xonotic.pickup
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#7
Hi Mirui,

thanks for the info, Mirui. I checked the links but there wasn't any info on libcurl. It did answer some other questions I had in mind though. Anyway, I found libcurl and installed it via USC. Btw, who updates the version of Xonotic on Desura? The first time I downloaded and installed it via Desura, but they're still on version 0.6.

And just in case another newb comes here and takes a look at this thread: after you have extracted desura 0.7 into your home directory, you have to start the game by running "xonotic-linux64-glx". I didn't try SDL, frankly I don't understand what the difference between the two is.

I just played two or three rounds and I must say, I am impressed. Cube0wl is right, this game looks and feels much more modern than Nexuiz. It runs faster too.

I am very pleased.
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#8
The two binaries offer different ways to the engine to handle your hardware, so if you notice some strange lag in controls, you can try both binaries, and it might solve it. There should be no main difference, though SDL might run MARGINALLY faster. (aka.: you will only notice difference with benchmarking).
There is only one big difference on Linux: if you have a multimonitor setup, you should use the glx binary in 0.7, as SDL will simply strech the game on all monitors. In git versions this was fixed, however, if you'd like to alt+tab in and out from the game, you still need to use the glx binary.
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#9
Hi Cube,

aah I see. So far I don't have any issues via the glx binary whatsoever, so I'll continue to use that one. I'm on Nvidia hardware though. Let's see how it goes on Amd. I invited my brother to play the game. He is the one using Amd hardware in his laptop. I tend to stick with Nvidia for Linux gaming, because their drivers are often better and faster for native and Wine based games on Ubuntu.

Thx for the info regarding the multimonitor setup. It might come in handy one day.

I'll login for some action right now but I'll come back here just in case I have more questions. Again - thx for making it so easy to download and run on Linux. I really look forward to future releases. Maybe even via USC one day. Smile
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#10
BTW, while Xonotic and Nexiuz are Quake-LIKES, OpenArena(google it) is a Quake-CLONE.
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#11
Shameless plug - don't forget to check out the integrated stats system too. You can find it at stats.xonotic.org. This is another thing that Nexuiz doesn't (and technically can't) have.
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