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RE: Screenshots of what you're doing. - theShadow - 05-23-2012
@maddin: don't forget to make LoD versions of those plants as well.
RE: Screenshots of what you're doing. - Maddin - 05-24-2012
(05-20-2012, 05:41 AM)Maddin Wrote: I guess I´ll optimise the models (->LoD) of yughues as they are rather high poly versions.
Give me some time, it´s rather busy here at the moment.
RE: Screenshots of what you're doing. - theShadow - 05-24-2012
right, guess I missed that. godspeed
RE: Screenshots of what you're doing. - poVoq - 05-24-2012
As I said, unless you want to plaster a huge open terrain with hundreds or thousands of these plants, reducing the polycount will probably not noticeably increase the overall performance on 95% of the PCs.
Today texture/shader fillrate is much more the bottleneck than saving a few polys at the vertex side of things AFAIK.
RE: Screenshots of what you're doing. - CuBe0wL - 05-24-2012
Last post to be made NOT about the actual screenshots, but Darkplaces can render static geometry pretty well, even with gazillion polys, just saying...
RE: Screenshots of what you're doing. - .Danny. - 05-24-2012
mario 64 trees anyone?
RE: Screenshots of what you're doing. - theShadow - 05-24-2012
what if we wanted to animate the plants? even just a slight waving animation for wind.
RE: Screenshots of what you're doing. - CuBe0wL - 05-25-2012
There was a proof of concept grassy map, I can't remember now who or when made it. It was a big G, with shader generated grass blades. It looked awesome, but totally fake, because the grass were not moving.
Now, I added some movement in the shader.
120 FPS -> 5FPS
RE: Screenshots of what you're doing. - MirceaKitsune - 05-25-2012
(05-24-2012, 09:26 PM)theShadow Wrote: what if we wanted to animate the plants? even just a slight waving animation for wind.
There are many ways you can go about this... I can think of 3 different (rational) ones.
1 - Give the plant texture a small tcmod turb in the shader key (so that the texture will waver around by a tiny amount). You must have enough transparent border around it in this case, else the texture will poke repeats around the edges as it circles. This should also not reduce performance, but is not very realistic. The mtree**.md3 models are an example of this IIRC.
2 - Give the plant texture a deformVertexes shader key (what water / slime uses for waves). This might be good for plants to simulate wind, by having the plant surface deform slowly. Note however that this reduces performance if done excessively... don't do it if there will be a lot of plants!
3 - Animate the plant model itself. If I remember right, md3 supports non-skeletal animations. You might be able to make your plant an animated md3, and make it loop as a misc_gamemodel. Morphed might know more in this domain.
4 - This is not a very rational way, but still posting just for the sake of it. You might want to make your plant surface out of BSP (or a misc_gamemodel attached with a misc_follow), and use an invisible and non-solid func_rotating or func_bobbing to have the code move the plant around. If you get a good entity setup, you might be able to obtain something pretty. But I really don't recommend trying this one at all.
RE: Screenshots of what you're doing. - Maddin - 05-25-2012
Made the first LoD model this afternoon...
![[Image: scaled.php?server=535&filename=tropicalp...es=landing]](http://img535.imageshack.us/img535/3325/tropicalplant02.png)
![[Image: scaled.php?server=341&filename=tropicalp...es=landing]](http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/5499/tropicalplant02lod.png)
RE: Screenshots of what you're doing. - Archer - 05-25-2012
Very nice Maddin, I see no difference at all between them, so I guess that's a good thing
RE: Screenshots of what you're doing. - rocknroll237 - 05-25-2012
Tbh, the second picture is a little unfair because the plant is further away in the second half. But yeah, generally speaking they look pretty similar.
RE: Screenshots of what you're doing. - Maddin - 05-25-2012
The second picture shows how it actually works in game: At a specific distance the LoD model will be showed instead of the normal model. If you don´t notice a big difference then that´s good.
RE: Screenshots of what you're doing. - MirceaKitsune - 05-25-2012
Nicely done. I don't see a difference between the LOD's either here, and it's pretty good.
RE: Screenshots of what you're doing. - poVoq - 05-26-2012
Please remember to reupload the LOD versions to OpenGameArt
RE: Screenshots of what you're doing. - Lee_Stricklin - 05-26-2012
I think it's safe to say you nailed it on the LOD model. It looks exactly like the high res one.
RE: Screenshots of what you're doing. - hutty - 05-29-2012
that looks good
!! edit to avoid the unforgivable sin of double posting
xonxon-shot1.jpg (Size: 56.83 KB / Downloads: 233)
got cubemaped textures working ... muahahah (100% gimp)
RE: Screenshots of what you're doing. - anark10n - 06-02-2012
Art incoming. Just some miscellaneous(didn't spell that right the first time as Mr. Bougo pointed out) props. from the back: crates, drums, baskets, ladders.
RE: Screenshots of what you're doing. - Mr. Bougo - 06-02-2012
(06-02-2012, 05:19 AM)anark10n Wrote: Art incoming. Just some miscallaneous(spelt that right first time) props. from the back: crates, drums, baskets, ladders.
Actually it's spelled "miscellaneous"
RE: Screenshots of what you're doing. - anark10n - 06-02-2012
(06-02-2012, 05:51 AM)Mr. Bougo Wrote:(06-02-2012, 05:19 AM)anark10n Wrote: Art incoming. Just some miscallaneous(spelt that right first time) props. from the back: crates, drums, baskets, ladders.
Actually it's spelled "miscellaneous"
Corrected. Thanks for that
RE: Screenshots of what you're doing. - poVoq - 06-02-2012
Very useful! Thanks for making these
RE: Screenshots of what you're doing. - CuBe0wL - 06-02-2012
![[Image: ztazf0j12vz7g71auxo_thumb.jpg]](http://pics.nexuizninjaz.com/viewer.php?file=ztazf0j12vz7g71auxo.jpg)
RE: Screenshots of what you're doing. - MirceaKitsune - 06-02-2012
(06-02-2012, 06:35 PM)C.Brutail Wrote:
Great stuff. Just hope performance is also good for a full map like that
RE: Screenshots of what you're doing. - Archer - 06-03-2012
(06-02-2012, 06:35 PM)C.Brutail Wrote:
This must be pretty refreshing for Xonotic, since most of the arenas are indoors, or all flat, looking forward to it
RE: Screenshots of what you're doing. - Lee_Stricklin - 06-03-2012
Looks awesome, should provide some outdoor mayhem most commonly associated with Tribes.