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Shotgun Idea - Jergling - 10-10-2010
Now that the shotgun has melee, I thought it would be a cool addition to give it a bayonet of sorts. This is my current design/concept. It's still a sketch, and I think it still looks a little too steampunk. Really, I'm just trying to make something better than the current model, which looks like a minigun.
I'm going for a human-made, 21st-century kind of gun. I think that this style not only fits the gun's role as standard-issue/baseline weapon, but serves to remind players that it can be used to melee.
It's 1372 polys, by the way, but it is by no means optimized.
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RE: Shotgun Idea - FruitieX - 10-10-2010
How would you hold it, ouch
RE: Shotgun Idea - Minkovsky - 10-11-2010
(10-10-2010, 11:17 PM)FruitieX Wrote: How would you hold it, ouch
+1
RE: Shotgun Idea - BARTUC - 10-11-2010
I like idea bayonet ...
I've got a simple quest : why not making some melee weapon similar to the Quake 3 gauntlet for the seconday fire of the Laser ???
If i'm not wrong the are no secondary fire for the laser, right ???
RE: Shotgun Idea - naryl - 10-11-2010
(10-11-2010, 04:36 AM)BARTUC Wrote: I've got a simple quest : why not making some melee weapon similar to the Quake 3 gauntlet for the seconday fire of the Laser ???
Tried it. Didn't work.
(10-11-2010, 04:36 AM)BARTUC Wrote: If i'm not wrong the are no secondary fire for the laser, right ???
Wrong. Secondary laser switches to the previous weapon as it has been in nexuiz for a long time.
RE: Shotgun Idea - BARTUC - 10-11-2010
(10-11-2010, 05:07 AM)naryl Wrote: Wrong. Secondary laser switches to the previous weapon as it has been in nexuiz for a long time.Well will be fun to have a secondary fire even for the laser.
RE: Shotgun Idea - rainerzufalldererste - 10-11-2010
Yarp! like a Laser Sword!
that would make some laser battles more fun! with that laser sword you could try to catch laser projectiles from others! *everything a bit offtopic
RE: Shotgun Idea - FruitieX - 10-11-2010
(10-11-2010, 06:18 AM)BARTUC Wrote:(10-11-2010, 05:07 AM)naryl Wrote: Wrong. Secondary laser switches to the previous weapon as it has been in nexuiz for a long time.Well will be fun to have a secondary fire even for the laser.
Nope, tried, it won't be fun
Shotgun slapping will always win.
RE: Shotgun Idea - BARTUC - 10-11-2010
(10-11-2010, 08:05 AM)rainerzufalldererste Wrote: Yarp! like a Laser Sword!oh lol
*everything a bit offtopic
(10-11-2010, 08:33 AM)FruitieX Wrote: Nope, tried, it won't be fun
Shotgun slapping will always win.
Well i dont like this shotgun ... i mean the Xonotic one
Maybe because i'm a Nexuiz's fan but i prefer the older one
RE: Shotgun Idea - rainerzufalldererste - 10-11-2010
the secondary was overpowered!
RE: Shotgun Idea - BARTUC - 10-11-2010
(10-11-2010, 10:56 AM)rainerzufalldererste Wrote: the secondary was overpowered!Yeah for short range but not for middle and long range fight.
Of course when i said the older one was better is only my point of view ... nothing more.
RE: Shotgun Idea - theShadow - 10-11-2010
I am planning something like this for the shotgun. I will post some WIP renders eventually.
RE: Shotgun Idea - Dokujisan - 10-11-2010
Must see it in 1st person perspective. We won't even see the back half of the weapon in-game.
RE: Shotgun Idea - Rage_ATWM - 10-11-2010
Off topic since post #4.
I like the initial proposal. I would even more like it with a trigger.
Maybe for the bayonet to be more salient, you could not make it centered.
RE: Shotgun Idea - Jergling - 10-11-2010
I lol'd when I realized that this thing would cut your fingers off. I added a trigger and a forward grip area.
I liked the original Nexuiz shotgun too, but it ended up looking too much like a... stick in first person. There was no depth to it. I like the idea of moving the bayonet to the side. Thanks for the suggestions. The new polycount is 1414.
RE: Shotgun Idea - kuniu the frogg - 10-11-2010
looking at the 1st person view of your model, i think, maybe make barrels a bit thicker? For me, it looks not massive and not powerfull enough
RE: Shotgun Idea - kojn^ - 10-12-2010
Think it looks fine actually
RE: Shotgun Idea - Jergling - 10-12-2010
I made the barrel assembly thicker, which did help to make the first-person view have a more uniform thickness. It's a pretty minor change, I've got more work to do.
RE: Shotgun Idea - unfa - 10-13-2010
Seems pretty nice, just the ammo cylinder is intersecting with rest of the model in a strange manner.
RE: Shotgun Idea - Lee_Stricklin - 10-13-2010
Very strange indeed. It would probably look cooler if it was replaced by a box magazine that sat to the right of the barrels and had a way to eject the shells underneath them. The weapon also doesn't look as futuristic as you think it would and has more of an old-fashioned look to it. Maybe put something where the blade is for the character to grip while putting some bad-ass looking sights on the weapon.
RE: Shotgun Idea - Rage_ATWM - 10-13-2010
(10-12-2010, 05:04 PM)Jergling Wrote: I made the barrel assembly thicker, which did help to make the first-person view have a more uniform thickness. It's a pretty minor change, I've got more work to do.Why does the butt not seem to be centered with respect to the barrel?
Otherwise, the result looks nice. As Lee said, it doesn't look futuristic.
But it's exactly what I like!
RE: Shotgun Idea - Kasofa - 10-28-2010
Your model looks good, but I still think if would be uncomfortable to hold. When holding a shotgun/rifle, your hand is completely under it, with your fingers to the outside and your thumb to the inside. The chunk you took out of the bottom is a start, but the pointy bits would still hurt your hand.
Also, how would this gun be reloaded? Just to ask, because it has no visible pump/lever/bolt. I understand the tommy clip idea, but there needs to look like a way to reload it.
The quality of it is decent (it doesn't look finished) but it doesn't convey the shotgun idea to me very well. Anyway, I hope my criticism is helpful, and I hope you keep modeling.
-K