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Cant use F-keys - Ramtech - 06-13-2012
Greetings
Keys aren't working
Details:
OS: Sabayon x64 KDE
HW: 7800GT with NVIDIA proprietary driver
loadkeys sk-qwerty
Was installed using sabayon-weekly repository
edit: posting it at 2:42AM GMT +1 i haven't realized that i typed Fx instead what should have been numeric keys example: 1 with ! 2 with @ and so on
RE: Cant use F-keys - Mr. Bougo - 06-14-2012
Do you use the glx or sdl xonotic?
RE: Cant use F-keys - Ramtech - 06-14-2012
SDL version
RE: Cant use F-keys - Mr. Bougo - 06-14-2012
Do you get the same problem in glx?
RE: Cant use F-keys - Ramtech - 06-14-2012
(06-14-2012, 12:58 PM)Mr. Bougo Wrote: Do you get the same problem in glx?
Yep btw check out my edit to first post
RE: Cant use F-keys - Mr. Bougo - 06-14-2012
Aaah, hehe.
It seems this layout has number keys on top (you input numbers from the numrow with shift). That's problematic. Based on the corresponding X layout, you have (starting from the top left):
semicolon
plus
lcaron
scaron
ccaron
tcaron
zcaron
yacute
aacute
iacute
eacute
equal
dead_acute
So the top left key and the 1 key should work fine, perhaps the others should, but I doubt the last one (which is a dead key) will work for binds.
What makes you say the keys don't work? Does it mean you can't bind them in the menu? I remember using a keyboard which had eacute, agrave and other diacritics without too much of a problem.
EDIT: Hold on, testing with another layout. I see there's a problem indeed.
EDIT: So yeah, this is kind of a silly situation and it's definitely a bug. What happens is that DarkPlaces only seems to understand latin1 encoding in bind config files, and sadly all those accented characters aren't in that character set (they are found in UTF8 or ISO-8859-2). You'll have to use a different layout meanwhile to use those keys, I'm sorry
EDIT: Reported the bug
RE: Cant use F-keys - Ramtech - 08-05-2012
(06-14-2012, 04:51 PM)Mr. Bougo Wrote: Aaah, hehe.
It seems this layout has number keys on top (you input numbers from the numrow with shift). That's problematic. Based on the corresponding X layout, you have (starting from the top left):
semicolon
plus
lcaron
scaron
ccaron
tcaron
zcaron
yacute
aacute
iacute
eacute
equal
dead_acute
So the top left key and the 1 key should work fine, perhaps the others should, but I doubt the last one (which is a dead key) will work for binds.
What makes you say the keys don't work? Does it mean you can't bind them in the menu? I remember using a keyboard which had eacute, agrave and other diacritics without too much of a problem.
EDIT: Hold on, testing with another layout. I see there's a problem indeed.
EDIT: So yeah, this is kind of a silly situation and it's definitely a bug. What happens is that DarkPlaces only seems to understand latin1 encoding in bind config files, and sadly all those accented characters aren't in that character set (they are found in UTF8 or ISO-8859-2). You'll have to use a different layout meanwhile to use those keys, I'm sorry
EDIT: Reported the bug
Anyways i tried to switch the layout in KDE Keyboard obviously switched to US when i type lcaron it shows 2 however the game still refuses to switch weapons SDL version i.e. pressing 4 wont switch to mortar
RE: Cant use F-keys - Mr. Bougo - 08-05-2012
Do the menu settings recognize it when you try to bind these keys?
RE: Cant use F-keys - Ramtech - 08-07-2012
Cant bind them in GUI whats the command to bind weapons? i have two keys which when pressed should switch to grenade launcher 4 and X and only X works even when i switch the keyboard to US layout
RE: Cant use F-keys - Mr. Bougo - 08-07-2012
Are you sure that the US layout is used in Xonotic as well? What characters show up when you type in the Xonotic console? (shift escape to access it)
I really don't know why Xonotic would use sk-qwerty if you set it as us in KDE.
Try to set the layout from a terminal with setxkbmap us, then launch Xonotic maybe?
RE: Cant use F-keys - Ramtech - 08-07-2012
Hmm after setting setxkbmap us in yakuake it works even with sk-qwerty layout set in KDE however i wonder if it will work even after restar i.e if change is persistent across reboots
RE: Cant use F-keys - Mr. Bougo - 08-07-2012
Okay, but that does not tell me what layout Xonotic uses. Again, what layout is used in Xonotic itself? You can tell by opening the Xonotic console with shift escape and typing stuff.
Please tell me what layout is used in the Xonotic console in both situations (when it works, and when it doesn't). I need to know this because apparently KDE is telling you you're using one layout when you're actually using the other. I don't trust KDE's information, I want to know what Xonotic itself sees, so please do that.
RE: Cant use F-keys - Ramtech - 08-07-2012
IF keyboard in KDE is set to: sk-qwerty
Typing reveals that Xonotic ignores some keys like ľ,š,č,ť,ž, however other keys like ý,á,í,é can be typed other keys ?::_ seem to work as in sk-qwerty mode
IF keyboard in KDE is set to: us
Keyboard behaves just like normal en-us layout
setxkbmap us was set i didnt restarted PC after i first set this
Keyboard shortcuts work regardless of what is set in KDE
RE: Cant use F-keys - Mr. Bougo - 08-07-2012
This is weird stuff... I don't understand what KDE is doing at all, I'm afraid I can't help you
RE: Cant use F-keys - Ramtech - 08-07-2012
Right so can you confirm that this is really KDE bug? i might report this to KDE devs
RE: Cant use F-keys - Cyber Killer - 08-08-2012
It's not a bug of KDE - AFAIK KDE sets the keymap for the currently used input method only (usually it's xim or dbus, sometimes scim), not the low level terminal keymap. I doubt if Xonotic uses any of these input methods.
RE: Cant use F-keys - Ramtech - 08-08-2012
Right so what can i do now?
RE: Cant use F-keys - Mr. Bougo - 08-08-2012
I honestly have no idea. Ask KDE-specialized forums or IRC channels about this, it might have affected other games or SDL applications in a way or another. Do mention that setting us-qwerty with setxkbmap works fine, but KDE's input selection does not work the way you expect it to work.
RE: Cant use F-keys - Ramtech - 08-13-2012
Problem seems to persists in fluxbox too im not so sure about that it is KDEs fault
RE: Cant use F-keys - Mr. Bougo - 08-13-2012
Even when setting the input method in fluxbox?
Can you copy the output of setxkbmap -print in the several different cases where it works / doesn't work? (By this I mean, after setting the layout to us or sk qwerty from fluxbox AND with setxkbmap). Also show me the output of setxkbmap -print just as you enter your session, before changing any settings.
RE: Cant use F-keys - Ramtech - 08-13-2012
KDE when i didnt changed a thing
Code:
ramtech@localhost ~ $ setxkbmap -print
xkb_keymap {
xkb_keycodes { include "evdev+aliases(qwerty)" };
xkb_types { include "complete" };
xkb_compat { include "complete" };
xkb_symbols { include "pc+us+sk(qwerty):2+inet(evdev)+group(rwin_toggle)" };
xkb_geometry { include "pc(pc101)" };
};fluxbox keyboard switching gui is just a frontend for setxkbmap so same thing happened to me
set sk-qwerty
Code:
ramtech@localhost ~ $ setxkbmap -print
xkb_keymap {
xkb_keycodes { include "evdev+aliases(qwertz)" };
xkb_types { include "complete" };
xkb_compat { include "complete" };
xkb_symbols { include "pc+sk(qwerty)+inet(evdev)" };
xkb_geometry { include "pc(pc104)" };
};Quote:IF keyboard in KDE is set to: sk-qwerty
Typing reveals that Xonotic ignores some keys like ľ,š,č,ť,ž, however other keys like ý,á,í,é can be typed other keys ?::_ seem to work as in sk-qwerty mode
set en layout
ramtech@localhost ~ $ setxkbmap -print
xkb_keymap {
xkb_keycodes { include "evdev+aliases(qwerty)" };
xkb_types { include "complete" };
xkb_compat { include "complete" };
xkb_symbols { include "pc+us+inet(evdev)" };
xkb_geometry { include "pc(pc104)" };
};
Quote:IF keyboard in KDE is set to: us
Keyboard behaves just like normal en-us layout
RE: Cant use F-keys - Mr. Bougo - 08-13-2012
Ok, and what about fluxbox? Can you change the layout in fluxbox too?
Also, is the layout set per-application? I've never used KDE or fancy graphical interfaces like that.
EDIT: I'm really sorry but I'm quite confused now. Can you not bind all your keys in Xonotic if you set the layout to us in KDE? Is there any difference between setting the layout to us in KDE or with setxkbmap?
RE: Cant use F-keys - Ramtech - 08-13-2012
Cyber Killer was right this isn't KDEs fault this one is Xonotic bug using KDE is actually workaround since KDE switching ignores setxkbmap the only problem is that i cant type in Slovak ingame which isn't such a big problem however outside it is big problem
Fluxbox... in Xonotic
us layout keys work
Fluxbox in Xonotic
layout sk-qwerty keys in question don't work
RE: Cant use F-keys - Mr. Bougo - 08-13-2012
Well, if KDE doesn't set X's keymap, it must have some sort of layer inbetween.
What happens if you do setxkbmap sk qwerty in fluxbox or KDE? Does input work in Xonotic then?
EDIT: As you can see, I know next to nothing about input methods. In any case, if this is a bug with Darkplaces not supporting KDE's twisted ways of input, I guess you should talk to the devs in #darkplaces on irc.anynet.org... But input in DP is quite broken and american-centric sadly. divVerent says he doesn't know how to help.
EDIT2: For me, without a desktop environment, setxkbmap sk qwerty works perfectly in the Xonotic console.
RE: Cant use F-keys - Ramtech - 08-13-2012
Quote:EDIT: As you can see, I know next to nothing about input methods. In any case, if this is a bug with Darkplaces not supporting KDE's twisted ways of input, I guess you should talk to the devs in #darkplaces on irc.anynet.org... But input in DP is quite broken and american-centric sadly. divVerent says he doesn't know how to help.
So this bug is unfixable?