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Overkill merged! - Mario - 12-17-2014
Overkill has been merged into the master branch of the main repository, which means it will be available (albeit hidden) in 0.8!
A guide for server owners interested in running overkill can be found here: http://smbclan.net/wiki/Note_to_Overkill_server_owners
RE: Overkill merged! - Halogene - 12-18-2014
That's great!
Does it come with the models, too? IIRC there was a licensing issue with regard to the weapon and player models overkill uses?
RE: Overkill merged! - Mario - 12-18-2014
It does indeed come with the models, which have been a part of the game since 0.7. Considering this, I assume the license issue was resolved, if there was one.
RE: Overkill merged! - tZork - 12-19-2014
Cool!
AFAIK there never was a license issue, just some confusion / uncertainty regarding the license.
]http://smbclan.net/wiki/Note_to_Overkill_server_owners Wrote:exec balance-overkill.cfg
I hope that does not mean you removed the "temp-cfg" loading.. that was put in for a good reason
RE: Overkill merged! - Mario - 12-19-2014
That file was harder to maintain than a proper balance config for overkill, and most server owners thought it needed to be executed from server.cfg, which made the temporary setting useless anyway.
Overkill will not enable without its balance being loaded, which makes it more of a thing for servers that don't mind getting into the dirty stuff when hosting a "modded" server of this kind. It is also hidden from the menu.
This seemed like the best way for me to get this into a merge-able state, and since it's hidden, we can always tweak and improve it after 0.8.
RE: Overkill merged! - Mr. Bougo - 12-20-2014
(12-19-2014, 08:02 PM)tZork Wrote: AFAIK there never was a license issue, just some confusion / uncertainty regarding the license.
I recall, but I can't find logs of it, that we discussed at one point the lack of GPL-licensing for the models. Unless Morphed has explicitly stated that he releases them under the GPL (either in a merge request or in a licensing file in the pk3), there still is a licensing issue.
RE: Overkill merged! - tZork - 12-25-2014
Its been stated b4, but i cleared this *again* (4'th time i think) with Morphed. These are GPL assets. Sources are lost so just deal with it (or don't, but they do not exist).
RE: Overkill merged! - Morphed - 12-25-2014
I made all these models from scratch and they were released under GPL license, I'm happy to merge them into Xonotic and then they can follow game license, if it's going to change in the future
RE: Overkill merged! - Mr. Bougo - 12-26-2014
(12-25-2014, 07:56 PM)tZork Wrote: Its been stated b4, but i cleared this *again* (4'th time i think) with Morphed. These are GPL assets. Sources are lost so just deal with it (or don't, but they do not exist).
(12-25-2014, 08:40 PM)Morphed Wrote: I made all these models from scratch and they were released under GPL license, I'm happy to merge them into Xonotic and then they can follow game license, if it's going to change in the future
Ah, okay. I'm sorry for the frustration that my inquiry apparently caused. If the sources are lost and assuming that the compiled models are unworkable as-is, which I'm not sure is the case, I think it's a mistake to release them under the GPL as Morphed simply cannot comply with his own licensing terms. You're essentially making a legally binding promise that you will provide something that you can't have.
Anyway, thanks for clearing this up. I tried to find a public statement about it or even private logs, and couldn't find anything, so asking a 4th time was useful
RE: Overkill merged! - Morphed - 12-27-2014
I do have sources, just they are hard to find and probably in a mess, so they are there just don't ask for them please