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[SUGGESTION] Weapons function

(05-20-2010, 10:14 AM)Flying Steel Wrote: If you can't even hit enemies with the machine gun and nex, how are people supposed to take all of these opinions of yours seriously? You have to have some basic skill with the game before you know where it needs to go to be more balanced.

And you actually defend laser flag caps outright.

You seem to be trying to push the game even more in the direction where you just have a lone laser caper getting shot at by anyone lucky enough to have an overpowered hitscan type weapon, while everyone else just stands around and wonders why they downloaded this game.

And the laser as an assault weapon? Don't make me laugh. Do you know how much it's damage would need to be increased to put its lethality anywhere close to that of a pickup weapon?

What you basically have said killgenerals is, increase the hitscan weapon strength to deal with the FCs..that's basically just not reading anything what I wrote.

Sure you may be passionate about not wanting some changes, but please try to think logically.

Adding extra strength to the hitscan weapons isn't going to fix the problem, it's still going to make the other weapons just as redunant to use, DM/TDM everyone would just go for the hitscan constantly in that case also.

The point is, when you make a sick shot with the other weapons it should be luck/skill, the problem at the moment is so many people lasering around very quickly that it really is a case of luck unless you have a hitscan weapon, which is effectively the mg and nexgun.

Nexuiz always had problems attracting mainstream players from the other-games when it first came out due to the bad lag/sloppy movement it had, and it got tarred with this brush ever since, sure each version got a bit better, but so many people were so angered by how poor versions were they literally gave up on it, some people like myself rode it out till now, some liked it fullstop, some hated it fullstop.

What i'm trying to say is, just re-packaging Nexuiz with a newname and some better graphics (lets not forget they got better with every version anyway), isn't going to attract new players, and I feel the Dev's knew this and why they wanted Nexuiz 2.6 to be a big change <-- Weapons

Everyone knows there has been multiple weapon changes from early on, because the balance was really quite screwed, there's nothing wrong with making things simpler, why does everything have to be over-engineered.

After all 'Nexuiz' was meant to bring back fast-paced old-skool DM, then it became a mix-mash of everything, which made resources stretched so far, it lost it's way.

Imo if people want to add stuff it should be via mods like most other games, the core content should be worked on and minor changes to make the game stable, I hope Xonotic goes this way (someone wrote a good post on the dumpster effect, vebe or someone, basically posted my thoughts).

Basically killgenerals, don't be so negative about change but look forward to it, for better or for worse depending what I become, if it makes the game have a stable balance, attracts more players and delivers a better game I'm all for it, I'd rather have change making something better and adapt then sticking to a game that was becoming stale.

And to finish it off, get GIT, test it, and let's comment on the CURRENT weapon settings, thats what I will do now, we can have our own personal discussions on IRC Smile
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Weapons function - by tZork - 04-04-2010, 05:25 PM
RE: Weapons function - by ThePWTULN - 04-04-2010, 05:45 PM
RE: Weapons function - by DiaboliK - 04-04-2010, 05:49 PM
RE: Weapons function - by tZork - 04-04-2010, 06:03 PM
RE: Weapons function - by Aleator - 04-04-2010, 06:47 PM
RE: Weapons function - by Roanoke - 04-04-2010, 07:48 PM
RE: Weapons function - by tZork - 04-04-2010, 08:50 PM
RE: Weapons function - by theShadow - 04-04-2010, 08:51 PM
RE: Weapons function - by Silica Gel: Do Not Eat - 04-04-2010, 09:00 PM
RE: Weapons function - by Cuinnton - 04-04-2010, 09:19 PM
RE: Weapons function - by nox - 04-04-2010, 09:21 PM
RE: Weapons function - by Roanoke - 04-04-2010, 09:32 PM
RE: Weapons function - by tZork - 04-04-2010, 09:48 PM
RE: Weapons function - by nox - 04-04-2010, 10:38 PM
RE: Weapons function - by Roanoke - 04-04-2010, 11:10 PM
RE: Weapons function - by Sepelio - 04-04-2010, 09:58 PM
RE: Weapons function - by Cuinnton - 04-04-2010, 10:22 PM
RE: Weapons function - by FruitieX - 04-05-2010, 03:10 AM
RE: Weapons function - by Debugger - 04-05-2010, 04:00 AM
RE: Weapons function - by PCLizard - 04-05-2010, 08:03 AM
RE: Weapons function - by tZork - 04-05-2010, 12:13 PM
RE: Weapons function - by Cortez666 - 04-05-2010, 01:27 PM
RE: Weapons function - by Roanoke - 04-05-2010, 02:23 PM
RE: Weapons function - by theShadow - 04-05-2010, 02:45 PM
RE: Weapons function - by Lee_Stricklin - 04-05-2010, 04:28 PM
RE: Weapons function - by Roanoke - 04-05-2010, 04:31 PM
RE: Weapons function - by Spyroviper - 04-06-2010, 07:14 AM
RE: Weapons function - by esteel - 04-06-2010, 07:56 AM
RE: Weapons function - by Roanoke - 04-06-2010, 11:31 AM
RE: Weapons function - by Spyroviper - 04-06-2010, 11:44 AM
RE: Weapons function - by booo - 04-07-2010, 10:06 AM
RE: Weapons function - by Roanoke - 04-07-2010, 11:23 AM
RE: Weapons function - by Erusavion - 04-07-2010, 12:50 PM
RE: Weapons function - by unfa - 04-10-2010, 09:35 AM
RE: Weapons function - by tankmiche - 04-11-2010, 05:02 AM
RE: Weapons function - by Debugger - 04-11-2010, 05:08 AM
RE: Weapons function - by unfa - 04-11-2010, 08:27 AM
RE: Weapons function - by theShadow - 04-11-2010, 08:48 AM
RE: Weapons function - by Roanoke - 04-11-2010, 01:45 PM
RE: Weapons function - by unfa - 04-11-2010, 03:12 PM
RE: Weapons function - by tZork - 04-13-2010, 01:35 AM
RE: Weapons function - by Roanoke - 04-13-2010, 05:40 PM
RE: Weapons function - by rainerzufalldererste - 04-17-2010, 06:37 AM
RE: Weapons function - by unfa - 04-18-2010, 02:34 PM
RE: Weapons function - by theShadow - 04-21-2010, 03:07 PM
RE: Weapons function - by MDWGUNS - 04-23-2010, 07:10 AM
RE: Weapons function - by kojn^ - 04-23-2010, 07:00 PM
RE: Weapons function - by GreEn`mArine - 04-24-2010, 05:13 AM
RE: Weapons function - by MDWGUNS - 04-24-2010, 06:13 AM
RE: Weapons function - by parasti - 04-24-2010, 07:44 AM
RE: Weapons function - by kojn^ - 04-24-2010, 10:58 AM
RE: Weapons function - by MDWGUNS - 04-25-2010, 01:08 AM
RE: Weapons function - by BeefotronX - 04-25-2010, 10:29 PM
RE: Weapons function - by Roanoke - 04-25-2010, 11:48 PM
RE: Weapons function - by MDWGUNS - 04-26-2010, 04:45 AM
RE: Weapons function - by kojn^ - 04-26-2010, 07:24 AM
RE: Weapons function - by MDWGUNS - 04-26-2010, 08:31 AM
RE: Weapons function - by Roanoke - 04-26-2010, 06:58 PM
RE: Weapons function - by rabs - 04-27-2010, 05:13 AM
RE: Weapons function - by divVerent - 04-26-2010, 09:12 AM
RE: Weapons function - by tZork - 04-27-2010, 02:48 AM
RE: Weapons function - by Roanoke - 04-27-2010, 06:31 PM
RE: Weapons function - by tZork - 04-28-2010, 09:41 AM
RE: Weapons function - by Roanoke - 04-28-2010, 08:20 PM
RE: Weapons function - by cozmium - 04-29-2010, 04:48 AM
RE: Weapons function - by unfa - 04-26-2010, 07:43 PM
RE: Weapons function - by MDWGUNS - 04-27-2010, 12:09 AM
RE: Weapons function - by MDWGUNS - 04-27-2010, 06:28 AM
RE: Weapons function - by Cortez666 - 04-27-2010, 07:10 AM
RE: Weapons function - by nifrek - 04-27-2010, 07:28 AM
RE: Weapons function - by kojn^ - 04-27-2010, 10:50 AM
RE: Weapons function - by Cortez666 - 04-27-2010, 11:58 AM
RE: Weapons function - by tZork - 04-27-2010, 01:16 PM
RE: Weapons function - by MDWGUNS - 04-27-2010, 07:55 PM
RE: Weapons function - by kojn^ - 04-28-2010, 07:22 AM
RE: Weapons function - by kojn^ - 04-28-2010, 11:04 AM
RE: Weapons function - by tZork - 04-28-2010, 01:06 PM
RE: Weapons function - by kuniu the frogg - 04-28-2010, 02:13 PM
RE: Weapons function - by cozmium - 04-28-2010, 07:19 PM
RE: Weapons function - by Cheshire Cat - 04-28-2010, 08:17 PM
RE: Weapons function - by Will - 04-28-2010, 11:29 PM
RE: Weapons function - by kojn^ - 04-29-2010, 06:38 AM
RE: Weapons function - by Lee_Stricklin - 04-29-2010, 06:50 AM
RE: Weapons function - by Roanoke - 04-29-2010, 07:11 PM
RE: Weapons function - by GT_Gene - 05-03-2010, 12:47 AM
RE: Weapons function - by unfa - 05-03-2010, 11:54 AM
RE: Weapons function - by Roanoke - 05-03-2010, 05:56 PM
RE: Weapons function - by kojn^ - 05-04-2010, 06:47 AM
RE: Weapons function - by tZork - 05-04-2010, 09:52 AM
RE: Weapons function - by kojn^ - 05-05-2010, 10:53 AM
RE: Weapons function - by GT_Gene - 05-04-2010, 03:29 PM
RE: Weapons function - by Roanoke - 05-05-2010, 06:14 PM
RE: Weapons function - by GT_Gene - 05-06-2010, 12:38 AM
RE: Weapons function - by Roanoke - 05-06-2010, 06:06 PM
RE: Weapons function - by GT_Gene - 05-08-2010, 12:18 AM
RE: Weapons function - by Roanoke - 05-08-2010, 01:20 PM
RE: Weapons function - by Lee_Stricklin - 05-06-2010, 01:30 AM
RE: Weapons function - by Halogene - 05-06-2010, 04:44 AM
RE: Weapons function - by Lee_Stricklin - 05-06-2010, 05:35 AM
RE: Weapons function - by Halogene - 05-06-2010, 10:31 AM
RE: Weapons function - by Flying Steel - 05-06-2010, 11:07 AM
RE: Weapons function - by parasti - 05-06-2010, 12:44 PM
RE: Weapons function - by kojn^ - 05-07-2010, 07:05 AM
RE: Weapons function - by tZork - 05-06-2010, 12:51 PM
RE: Weapons function - by Flying Steel - 05-22-2010, 01:18 PM
RE: Weapons function - by Halogene - 05-06-2010, 01:57 PM
RE: Weapons function - by Flying Steel - 05-06-2010, 02:02 PM
RE: Weapons function - by DiaboliK - 05-06-2010, 02:40 PM
RE: Weapons function - by Flying Steel - 05-06-2010, 09:10 PM
RE: Weapons function - by Halogene - 05-07-2010, 03:10 AM
RE: Weapons function - by Flying Steel - 05-08-2010, 04:13 PM
RE: Weapons function - by Halogene - 05-17-2010, 03:07 AM
RE: Weapons function - by Flying Steel - 05-17-2010, 12:19 PM
RE: Weapons function - by Roanoke - 05-08-2010, 06:58 PM
RE: Weapons function - by Flying Steel - 05-08-2010, 09:08 PM
RE: Weapons function - by Roanoke - 05-09-2010, 07:39 PM
RE: Weapons function - by kojn^ - 05-10-2010, 06:46 AM
RE: Weapons function - by Roanoke - 05-10-2010, 06:29 PM
RE: Weapons function - by kojn^ - 05-11-2010, 06:56 AM
RE: Weapons function - by Halogene - 05-18-2010, 02:43 AM
RE: Weapons function - by nifrek - 05-18-2010, 06:08 AM
RE: Weapons function - by kojn^ - 05-18-2010, 06:47 AM
RE: Weapons function - by Halogene - 05-18-2010, 07:50 AM
RE: Weapons function - by Flying Steel - 05-19-2010, 01:00 PM
RE: Weapons function - by kojn^ - 05-18-2010, 07:35 PM
RE: Weapons function - by killgenerals - 05-20-2010, 07:55 AM
RE: Weapons function - by Flying Steel - 05-20-2010, 10:14 AM
RE: Weapons function - by kojn^ - 05-20-2010, 06:01 PM
RE: Weapons function - by killgenerals - 05-21-2010, 03:12 AM
RE: Weapons function - by Halogene - 05-20-2010, 10:45 AM
RE: Weapons function - by Flying Steel - 05-20-2010, 11:28 AM
RE: Weapons function - by killgenerals - 05-20-2010, 01:10 PM
RE: Weapons function - by Flying Steel - 05-20-2010, 01:24 PM
RE: Weapons function - by killgenerals - 05-20-2010, 01:36 PM
RE: Weapons function - by Flying Steel - 05-20-2010, 03:42 PM
RE: Weapons function - by killgenerals - 05-20-2010, 03:44 PM
RE: Weapons function - by Flying Steel - 05-20-2010, 03:45 PM
RE: Weapons function - by Cortez666 - 05-20-2010, 05:11 PM
RE: Weapons function - by Trev_Nacho - 05-20-2010, 08:40 PM
RE: Weapons function - by parasti - 05-21-2010, 07:44 AM
RE: Weapons function - by killgenerals - 05-20-2010, 04:07 PM
RE: Weapons function - by Flying Steel - 05-20-2010, 11:14 PM
RE: Weapons function - by Cortez666 - 05-21-2010, 05:36 AM
RE: Weapons function - by kojn^ - 05-21-2010, 06:57 AM
RE: Weapons function - by Halogene - 05-21-2010, 06:58 AM
RE: Weapons function - by killgenerals - 05-21-2010, 07:17 AM
RE: Weapons function - by kojn^ - 05-21-2010, 07:50 AM
RE: Weapons function - by Cortez666 - 05-21-2010, 07:27 AM
RE: Weapons function - by kojn^ - 05-21-2010, 07:42 AM
RE: Weapons function - by Cortez666 - 05-21-2010, 07:57 AM
RE: Weapons function - by killgenerals - 05-21-2010, 08:17 AM
RE: Weapons function - by Flying Steel - 05-21-2010, 10:57 AM
RE: Weapons function - by Cortez666 - 05-21-2010, 11:57 AM
RE: Weapons function - by Diomedes - 05-21-2010, 11:46 AM
RE: Weapons function - by Flying Steel - 05-21-2010, 12:17 PM
RE: Weapons function - by Diomedes - 05-21-2010, 12:32 PM
RE: Weapons function - by Flying Steel - 05-21-2010, 12:56 PM
RE: Weapons function - by kojn^ - 05-21-2010, 01:27 PM
RE: Weapons function - by killgenerals - 05-21-2010, 01:35 PM
RE: Weapons function - by kojn^ - 05-21-2010, 01:43 PM
RE: Weapons function - by killgenerals - 05-21-2010, 01:53 PM
RE: Weapons function - by Flying Steel - 05-21-2010, 02:04 PM
RE: Weapons function - by Cortez666 - 05-21-2010, 04:54 PM
RE: Weapons function - by Flying Steel - 05-21-2010, 07:18 PM
RE: Weapons function - by kojn^ - 05-21-2010, 01:58 PM
RE: Weapons function - by kojn^ - 05-21-2010, 02:15 PM
RE: Weapons function - by Roanoke - 05-21-2010, 06:00 PM
RE: Weapons function - by kojn^ - 05-22-2010, 11:28 AM
RE: Weapons function - by kuniu the frogg - 05-22-2010, 12:51 PM
RE: Weapons function - by Sepelio - 05-22-2010, 01:16 PM
RE: Weapons function - by chooksta - 05-22-2010, 01:54 PM
RE: Weapons function - by killgenerals - 05-22-2010, 02:56 PM
RE: Weapons function - by Flying Steel - 05-22-2010, 04:23 PM
RE: Weapons function - by XV22 - 05-23-2010, 10:10 AM
RE: Weapons function - by booo - 05-26-2010, 07:54 AM
RE: Weapons function - by Grasshopper - 06-12-2010, 06:17 AM
RE: Weapons function - by parasti - 06-12-2010, 06:31 AM
RE: Weapons function - by Roanoke - 06-12-2010, 12:12 PM
RE: Weapons function - by kojn^ - 06-13-2010, 03:47 PM
RE: Weapons function - by Roanoke - 06-13-2010, 03:49 PM
RE: Weapons function - by FruitieX - 06-20-2010, 10:08 AM
RE: Weapons function - by Roanoke - 06-20-2010, 11:15 AM
RE: Weapons function - by DiaboliK - 06-20-2010, 09:03 PM
RE: Weapons function - by Agamalama - 06-20-2010, 11:53 PM
RE: Weapons function - by kojn^ - 06-22-2010, 01:37 PM
RE: Weapons function - by lunitix - 07-06-2010, 12:28 AM
RE: Weapons function - by Fisume - 07-06-2010, 03:44 AM
RE: Weapons function - by FruitieX - 07-12-2010, 12:48 PM
RE: Weapons function - by kojn^ - 07-13-2010, 06:36 AM
RE: Weapons function - by Roanoke - 07-13-2010, 03:17 PM
RE: Weapons function - by kojn^ - 07-14-2010, 08:04 AM
RE: Weapons function - by Roanoke - 07-14-2010, 11:58 AM
RE: Weapons function - by Flying Steel - 07-14-2010, 01:26 PM
RE: Weapons function - by Roanoke - 07-14-2010, 01:41 PM
RE: Weapons function - by FruitieX - 07-21-2010, 04:25 AM
RE: Weapons function - by kojn^ - 07-15-2010, 06:37 AM
RE: Weapons function - by Halogene - 07-15-2010, 06:56 AM
RE: Weapons function - by Flying Steel - 07-15-2010, 09:30 AM
RE: Weapons function - by kojn^ - 07-15-2010, 11:12 AM
RE: Weapons function - by Roanoke - 07-15-2010, 11:48 AM
RE: Weapons function - by Flying Steel - 07-15-2010, 12:02 PM
RE: Weapons function - by Roanoke - 07-15-2010, 12:03 PM
RE: Weapons function - by Mr. Bougo - 07-21-2010, 04:30 AM
RE: Weapons function - by tangerian - 08-10-2010, 04:08 PM
RE: Weapons function - by MeloPixel - 08-31-2010, 06:43 PM
RE: Weapons function - by SFXMaster - 09-02-2010, 04:44 PM
RE: Weapons function - by vipus - 06-27-2011, 06:22 PM
RE: Weapons function - by Lightning III - 06-30-2011, 07:55 AM
RE: Weapons function - by Mirio - 06-30-2011, 08:11 AM

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