[SUGGESTION] Official Instagib Tournaments/Pickup games

As of right now mainly vanilla has seen a lot of love in the pickup scene and official tournaments. A big part of the community is however also active on the instagib servers. Therefor it could be fun to give this community some love as well ; Tournaments and pickup games would certainly revive a lot of the high tier instagib games in Xonotic and maybe even some of the clan scene! The pickup games and tournaments could include all of the different gamemodes as well, just with the instagib mod. Tell me what you guys think about it!
vega

To be clear, I don't want to replace vanilla with instagib as the official Xonotic gamemode like previously suggested by other player(s). Instead I just want some more attention towards instagib by making high level (or any level) pickup games via IRC possible and by making an x amount of official instagib Xonotic tournaments each year.

vega

I think it is a good idea vega.

Kwakkie

some years ago we played some 2v2 minsta pickups. 
The other were to high skill (no good memories)

some years ago we played some 2v2 minsta pickups. 
The other were to high skill (no good memories)

A long time ago DTG used to do pickups a lot as well and last year I organised some myself every sunday, but I don't have the reach the #xonotic.pickup channel has sadly. It would just be amazing to see more instagib pickups again and have some tournaments to play in!

vega

Maybe the lack of instagib tournaments is due to nobody from those communities wanting to do the hosting/organizing part? If you're up for that, then go for it.
I also had no idea that we had official tournaments..

Maybe the lack of instagib tournaments is due to nobody from those communities wanting to do the hosting/organizing part? If you're up for that, then go for it.
I also had no idea that we had official tournaments..

I've tried plenty of times in the past myself and people just don't show up for their matches. Now .exe is organising one and there is also a clanwar this sunday. In 2016 I was also the one with the initiative to organise sunday pickup wars, which were active as long as I was. Sadly the moment I became inactive for a while, they dissapeared. So it's not that nobody wants to organise, it's that not enough people want to organise.

Vanilla has the luck that some devs are willing to promote this style and organise tournaments for it. If you call those official tournaments are not is just a way of perception. However you can't denie that there's a lot more focus on vanilla than on instagib tournament wise. 

vega

There are a handful of instagib players, but I don't think they're the kind that are often on the forums. After all, the best na 1v1 instactf player who has beaten the likes of SPLAT, Mario, floxxy, Totally Cool, etc, who will some day become best American, get his revenge on Islinn, etc, crowned himself as such entirely in-game I think. Unfortunately without the persistence of a web page, he has to tout his accomplishments and a small profile of himself per entry to a game server.
To actually productively get something going and engage those players you might need to advertise in-game, and get people actively talking about it.

There are a handful of instagib players, but I don't think they're the kind that are often on the forums. After all, the best na 1v1 instactf player who has beaten the likes of SPLAT, Mario, floxxy, Totally Cool, etc, who will some day become best American, get his revenge on Islinn, etc, crowned himself as such entirely in-game I think. Unfortunately without the persistence of a web page, he has to tout his accomplishments and a small profile of himself per entry to a game server.
To actually productively get something going and engage those players you might need to advertise in-game, and get people actively talking about it.

That's what I did (advertising ingame) with the sunday pickup wars and we had a ton of people showing up but nobody wanted to keep organising it once I was to busy. When a bot is organising it for you however, that's where it gets interesting. People would just have to !add themself to the games via IRC.

Vanilla has been used as the official mode of Xonotic, whether people want to admit that or not. Therefor it has seen a lot more exposure and development. One of those ways to get more exposure for the mode are tournaments organised in the name of Xonotic (Xonotic world cup series, Xonotic summer championship,...) Having those kind of tournaments for Instagib as well, would make instagib players maybe check the forums more often and revive a lot of the competitive scene => people organising tournaments themself.

vega